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Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved.

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  • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

    Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

    It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

    https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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    #4

    @kakape
    It's not a fatal complication, so arguably less deserving of attention, but I hope that somebody is also looking into lower limb lymphedema following mRNA vaccination.

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    • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

      Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

      It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

      https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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      #5

      @kakape and THIS, folks, is how actual scientists address concerns about vaccine safety.
      (also, cool!)

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      • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

        Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

        It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

        https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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        #6

        @kakape Great article!

        I noticed that your profile at the bottom includes the logos for X and LinkedIn, and text stating your Bluesky name. May I suggest that you also include a link to your Mastodon account?

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        • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

          Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

          It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

          https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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          #7
          @kakape good to know, my first COVID vaccine was J&J ​​
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          • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

            Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

            It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

            https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

            wintergr33n@lingo.lolW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @kakape

            I knew someone who immediately went out to get vaccinated at the start and then needed triple bypass surgery.

            I found out about it years after it happened.

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            • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

              Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

              It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

              https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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              #9

              @kakape This is so cool! Thanks for sharing.

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              • wintergr33n@lingo.lolW wintergr33n@lingo.lol

                @kakape

                I knew someone who immediately went out to get vaccinated at the start and then needed triple bypass surgery.

                I found out about it years after it happened.

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                @Wintergr33n @kakape

                But wasn't this side effect something that happened to the brain, not the heart?

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                • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

                  Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

                  It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

                  https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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                  @kakape I well remember the Anti-Vaxxers bleating "See, we said the vaccines weren't safe!" ehen the first of these death were announced - but, looking at the numbers tells a different story.
                  If everyone in the UK received one of these vaccines, an incidence rate of 1/200000 would mean that there would be around 350 cases across the ~70 million population - compare this to the number of casualties in road accidents (29,467 in 2024), and the vaccines are obviously much safer.
                  Similarly, a 360 million population in the US would suggest ~1800 cases, which sounds a lot, until you realise just how many people are killed by the Second Amendment - 16,576 in 2024 .
                  Most US Anti-Vaxxers are also ammosexuals, yet they are perfectly happy to accept the much higher risk of being shot than getting a shot.
                  And the fact that these vaccines were withdrawn so quickly after problems came up just reinforces the value of the scientific method, rather than the woo-woo of things like bleach injections, or hydroxychloroquine, which the Anti-Vaxxers seem to prefer.
                  As a layperson, I find reports like this reassuring.

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                  • kakape@mas.toK kakape@mas.to

                    Five years after the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines started, it seems the mystery of why the Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines led to a rare but deadly side effect of unusual blood clots and bleeding has finally been solved. 

                    It's a fascinating case of molecular mimicry that may help make vaccine safer.

                    https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-dangerous-side-effects-some-covid-19-vaccines-explained

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                    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

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                      @energisch_ @kakape
                      Hab's doch schon gelesen.
                      🙂🙏

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                      • docjosiahboone@wien.rocksD docjosiahboone@wien.rocks

                        @energisch_ @kakape
                        Hab's doch schon gelesen.
                        🙂🙏

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                        • mancavgeek@social.teamb.spaceM mancavgeek@social.teamb.space

                          @kakape I well remember the Anti-Vaxxers bleating "See, we said the vaccines weren't safe!" ehen the first of these death were announced - but, looking at the numbers tells a different story.
                          If everyone in the UK received one of these vaccines, an incidence rate of 1/200000 would mean that there would be around 350 cases across the ~70 million population - compare this to the number of casualties in road accidents (29,467 in 2024), and the vaccines are obviously much safer.
                          Similarly, a 360 million population in the US would suggest ~1800 cases, which sounds a lot, until you realise just how many people are killed by the Second Amendment - 16,576 in 2024 .
                          Most US Anti-Vaxxers are also ammosexuals, yet they are perfectly happy to accept the much higher risk of being shot than getting a shot.
                          And the fact that these vaccines were withdrawn so quickly after problems came up just reinforces the value of the scientific method, rather than the woo-woo of things like bleach injections, or hydroxychloroquine, which the Anti-Vaxxers seem to prefer.
                          As a layperson, I find reports like this reassuring.

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                          @mancavgeek @kakape Good comment. Even better if you consider that the vaccine reduced the case fatality rate (CFR, deaths due to infections, about 0.3% before vaccination) of COVID-19 by at least 50% and this is a conservative estimate. This means the vaccines saved more than 1 in 1,000 lives while inducing fatal immune reactions in less than 1 in 200,000. Still, every live counts and scientists are dedicating their lives to improve vaccines 🙏

                          https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/16-01-2024-covid-19-vaccinations-have-saved-more-than-1.4-million-lives-in-the-who-european-region--a-new-study-finds

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