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  • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

    @Daojoan Even these got ruined nowadays. RSS feeds often don't have the full article text. Email contains tracking pixels and links. "Blogs" have texts behind paywalls and cookie warnings. We need the old web back.

    daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
    daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
    daojoan@mastodon.social
    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #18

    @forst Problem with that is - we often paywall our stuff these days so that it isn’t all just scraped and summarised by a smorgasbord of bots. It’s such a balancing problem

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      RSS never tracked you.
      Email never throttled you.
      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
      The old web wasn’t perfect.
      But it was yours.

      monsoonrains@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      monsoonrains@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      monsoonrains@mastodon.social
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #19

      @Daojoan Old web gave serotonin. Mmmm.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        RSS never tracked you.
        Email never throttled you.
        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
        The old web wasn’t perfect.
        But it was yours.

        gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
        gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
        gary_alderson@infosec.exchange
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #20

        @Daojoan this is just euphoric recall - at least nor/xor you have total recall

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          RSS never tracked you.
          Email never throttled you.
          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
          The old web wasn’t perfect.
          But it was yours.

          r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
          r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
          r@glauca.space
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #21

          @Daojoan to join the "well actually" crowd, email absolutely did have throttling, although retry and backoff logic tended to be much more reliable and well-tested back then

          there was a lot of the old internet that wasn't democratized and "yours" (e.g. acquiring connectivity, acquiring compute), although the details have shifted around a lot

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            RSS never tracked you.
            Email never throttled you.
            Blogs never begged for dopamine.
            The old web wasn’t perfect.
            But it was yours.

            miko@mewmew.moeM This user is from outside of this forum
            miko@mewmew.moeM This user is from outside of this forum
            miko@mewmew.moe
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #22

            @Daojoan@mastodon.social

            RSS never tracked you.
            cat /var/log/nginx/access.log
            Email never throttled you.
            https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#default_destination_rate_delay

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              RSS never tracked you.
              Email never throttled you.
              Blogs never begged for dopamine.
              The old web wasn’t perfect.
              But it was yours.

              scottwhat@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              scottwhat@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              scottwhat@mastodon.social
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #23

              @Daojoan I wish the major browsers would bring back built in RSS!

              gamerposter@pol.socialG wpeckham@social.linux.pizzaW tuga@masto.ptT 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                RSS never tracked you.
                Email never throttled you.
                Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                The old web wasn’t perfect.
                But it was yours.

                doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                doctorwhom@mastodon.social
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #24

                @Daojoan

                Tracked you? Hmm, they all left logs. I processed logs in the 1990's to see where people where located. I mean, no cookies, but they did everything they could to track you then. Yes, we throttled email, but they came through after a day or two. Server could not handle the volume.

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                • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                  @undefined_variable @Daojoan I still use IRC on a daily basis. It's not gone.

                  aaron@chirp.zadzmo.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                  aaron@chirp.zadzmo.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                  aaron@chirp.zadzmo.org
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #25

                  @azonenberg @undefined_variable +1.

                  There's something like 30k people signed into Libera at any moment - and all the old names like EFNet, DALnet, etc are still there.

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                  • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                    azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                    azonenberg@ioc.exchange
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #26

                    @aaron @undefined_variable Even flyback is still there, lol.

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      RSS never tracked you.
                      Email never throttled you.
                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                      But it was yours.

                      pachacutec@union.placeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      pachacutec@union.placeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      pachacutec@union.place
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #27

                      @Daojoan
                      I blogged in the 00's on #politics and now I'm blogging again on #Creativity #music and #Psychology but I have tracking cookies disabled on my site. And no ads.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        RSS never tracked you.
                        Email never throttled you.
                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                        But it was yours.

                        lovestha@floss.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lovestha@floss.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lovestha@floss.social
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #28

                        @Daojoan silently deleting or spam filtering feels a lot like rate limiting.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          RSS never tracked you.
                          Email never throttled you.
                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                          But it was yours.

                          mariejulien@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mariejulien@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mariejulien@mastodon.social
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #29

                          @Daojoan @temptoetiam sorry but blogs ALWAYS begged for dopamine.

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            RSS never tracked you.
                            Email never throttled you.
                            Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                            The old web wasn’t perfect.
                            But it was yours.

                            danielsaidi@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                            danielsaidi@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                            danielsaidi@mastodon.social
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #30

                            @Daojoan US ultra capitalism perverted it into a dystopian hellscape.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              RSS never tracked you.
                              Email never throttled you.
                              Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                              The old web wasn’t perfect.
                              But it was yours.

                              jennyfluff@chitter.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jennyfluff@chitter.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jennyfluff@chitter.xyz
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #31

                              @Daojoan IRC never died

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                RSS never tracked you.
                                Email never throttled you.
                                Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                But it was yours.

                                jeff@noxon.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jeff@noxon.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jeff@noxon.cc
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #32

                                @Daojoan I was so sad a couple weeks ago when the SMBC feed removed the content. I'll only see it now when it gets shared by copy/paste.

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                                • r@glauca.spaceR r@glauca.space

                                  @Daojoan to join the "well actually" crowd, email absolutely did have throttling, although retry and backoff logic tended to be much more reliable and well-tested back then

                                  there was a lot of the old internet that wasn't democratized and "yours" (e.g. acquiring connectivity, acquiring compute), although the details have shifted around a lot

                                  serenus@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  serenus@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  serenus@mas.to
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #33

                                  @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

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                                  • serenus@mas.toS serenus@mas.to

                                    @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

                                    r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    r@glauca.space
                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #34

                                    @Serenus @Daojoan yeah, this existed in various places (*especially* _outside_ the United States, where suburbia and monopolies really ruined things). there also existed people hosting stuff on spare computers and using dynamic dns providers

                                    you gain some, you lose some. nowadays connectivity and compute are *way* easier and more affordable, but the cultural knowledge that you _can_ self-host seems to be disappearing

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      RSS never tracked you.
                                      Email never throttled you.
                                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                      But it was yours.

                                      andrija@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      andrija@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      andrija@floss.social
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #35

                                      @Daojoan And it still is ❤️‍🔥

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        RSS never tracked you.
                                        Email never throttled you.
                                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                        But it was yours.

                                        bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #36

                                        @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          RSS never tracked you.
                                          Email never throttled you.
                                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                          But it was yours.

                                          wally@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          wally@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          wally@mastodon.social
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #37

                                          @Daojoan The old web was perfect. The browser showed you when a page was loading and you knew when it was done loading. Now I never know if the element I'm about to click on is going to change or if the whole page is going to shift.

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