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In simple terms, once again, why you can stick your “#AI” (more precisely: #LLM and #GenAI) up to where the sun doesn't shine.

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  • katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
    katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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    In simple terms, once again, why you can stick your “#AI” (more precisely: #LLM and #GenAI) up to where the sun doesn't shine. None of this is unclear, everything has long been publicly known and documented:

    “#AI” is a speculative bubble that causes massive damage to the #environment and #climate; cheats people out of the wages for their labor and their art; contaminates and corrupts the acquisition, maintenance, and dissemination of knowledge like microplastics, not even stopping at your brains; and yields several orders of magnitude less than it costs. It is not even remotely viable on its own and ultimately hopes for permanent financing through the squandering of taxpayer money, as soon as “the market” has had enough of fuzzy promises of "returns", and no longer wants to “invest.”

    You like “AI” because it produces plausible-sounding and plausible-looking bullshit and because you have learned in the 21st century that you can get away with it, provided you don't give a damn about future generations. In the end, you'll be left without even a hint of the illusion that immense amounts of money have been wasted here on something “systemically important,” as was the case last time.

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    • katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org

      In simple terms, once again, why you can stick your “#AI” (more precisely: #LLM and #GenAI) up to where the sun doesn't shine. None of this is unclear, everything has long been publicly known and documented:

      “#AI” is a speculative bubble that causes massive damage to the #environment and #climate; cheats people out of the wages for their labor and their art; contaminates and corrupts the acquisition, maintenance, and dissemination of knowledge like microplastics, not even stopping at your brains; and yields several orders of magnitude less than it costs. It is not even remotely viable on its own and ultimately hopes for permanent financing through the squandering of taxpayer money, as soon as “the market” has had enough of fuzzy promises of "returns", and no longer wants to “invest.”

      You like “AI” because it produces plausible-sounding and plausible-looking bullshit and because you have learned in the 21st century that you can get away with it, provided you don't give a damn about future generations. In the end, you'll be left without even a hint of the illusion that immense amounts of money have been wasted here on something “systemically important,” as was the case last time.

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        @energisch_ @katzenberger

        And it's more than their funds that people will lose.

        "AI" is nothing less but the strip mining of society*, taken to the next level.

        * (a term I first saw applied to facebook, a very apt description, IMHO)

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          @energisch_ @katzenberger

          And it's more than their funds that people will lose.

          "AI" is nothing less but the strip mining of society*, taken to the next level.

          * (a term I first saw applied to facebook, a very apt description, IMHO)

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          @energisch_ @katzenberger

          I contend that this is also entirely deliberate, it is a goal. They can't even hide their glee when another industry is upended and people left to themselves amidst the debris.

          This has been a project dear to neoliberals for quite some time.

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            @energisch_ @katzenberger

            I contend that this is also entirely deliberate, it is a goal. They can't even hide their glee when another industry is upended and people left to themselves amidst the debris.

            This has been a project dear to neoliberals for quite some time.

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            @energisch_ @katzenberger

            And people don't seem to get it. The relentless propaganda has been effective, mostly at creating a sense of inevitability.

            I choose my friends accordingly - but cannot trust 90% of my coworkers. And I've heard similar stories from the "education sector", which means the attack is total and deep.

            But how does one argue with someone who thinks - since this has been introduced from above and by relying on fear - that their salary depends on not understanding!

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            • quincy@chaos.socialQ quincy@chaos.social

              @energisch_ @katzenberger

              And it's more than their funds that people will lose.

              "AI" is nothing less but the strip mining of society*, taken to the next level.

              * (a term I first saw applied to facebook, a very apt description, IMHO)

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