Gotta say it's pretty impressive that #Forkiverse already has 1,200 members.
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@mfennvt @Rycaut @APBBlue I follow an acquaintance on Facebook who I find extremely funny. When he 'liked' my replies, which I intended to be funny too, I was flattered. I later discovered he 'likes' anyone that says anything to him. He just means 'thanks for reading what I wrote and bothering to respond'. His 'likes' were devalued by this knowledge. If we weren't keeping count, why would we call it 'social capital'?
@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue interestingly social capital is a very bad metaphor for a bunch of reasons.
(One - because most people have a really bad understanding of economics - including most economists - standard Econ as taught in Econ 101 classes is very wrong - even the professors teaching it know it is deeply flawed)
But also social capital isn’t zero sum. Having social “capital” doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t. And often the most influential hubs in a social network aren’t the biggest
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@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue interestingly social capital is a very bad metaphor for a bunch of reasons.
(One - because most people have a really bad understanding of economics - including most economists - standard Econ as taught in Econ 101 classes is very wrong - even the professors teaching it know it is deeply flawed)
But also social capital isn’t zero sum. Having social “capital” doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t. And often the most influential hubs in a social network aren’t the biggest
@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue (context here - I started and ran a conference on the study of Networks more than 20 years ago - where we had a very broad and interdisciplinary view of networks - speakers included pentagon logistics experts, social network analysts, mathematicians, professors of traffic studies, artists, investors, entrepreneurs and many many others.)
In social networks “influence” is often in bridging different networks - and in who those with big networks respect and listen to
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@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue (context here - I started and ran a conference on the study of Networks more than 20 years ago - where we had a very broad and interdisciplinary view of networks - speakers included pentagon logistics experts, social network analysts, mathematicians, professors of traffic studies, artists, investors, entrepreneurs and many many others.)
In social networks “influence” is often in bridging different networks - and in who those with big networks respect and listen to
@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue we’ve been taught in the last decade+ that bigger numbers matter (or ratios etc) by social networks where a lot of those numbers are wildly manipulated (literally by bots in many cases) but also as you point out by wildly diffferent but I’d argue equally valid approaches to how people use the tools made available to them.
Which is why a lot of folks suggest not showing many such numbers - as what is counted becomes what people optimize for (and cheat)
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@GracelessHippo @APBBlue The one you want is #Alt4Me (the other is people responding with alt text, I don't know if anyone follows it to provide it)
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@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue we’ve been taught in the last decade+ that bigger numbers matter (or ratios etc) by social networks where a lot of those numbers are wildly manipulated (literally by bots in many cases) but also as you point out by wildly diffferent but I’d argue equally valid approaches to how people use the tools made available to them.
Which is why a lot of folks suggest not showing many such numbers - as what is counted becomes what people optimize for (and cheat)
@woo @mfennvt @APBBlue I don’t have the biggest numbers on any given network. But I’ve often had a very diverse network that included a lot of people who were themselves hubs of some form in their own different communities. (This was true of my social network long before any online social networks existed). And it’s often true that such hubs know each other even across topics and fields - often introduced by less well known folks like myself when I ran a conference and other events
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My advice to newcomers:
1. Follow a lot of accounts. There's no algorithm here, so it takes a little work to make sure you have a lively feed.
2. Check and follow #hashtags of interest. It's a great way to find good accounts to follow!
3. Be sure to add alt-text to your photos and videos. We take accessibility seriously here, and your blind followers will appreciate it.
4. Enjoy! We're glad you're here!
Also
Have a bio that is more than generic guff.
Have profile and header images (but not busty ones).
Make a few posts before following others.
In the last day I've blocked two accounts.
Both created the last day.
Both had no posts.
Both had followed several dozen accounts.
One had no photos,
the other a very pretty female profile pic and a busty no face header pic. -
Gotta say it's pretty impressive that #Forkiverse already has 1,200 members. The more, the merrier. Welcome!
#Mastodon@APBBlue 2,000 now!
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Also consider: #MardiPatisserie
@stevegis_ssg @APBBlue Hmmm,
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@mfennvt @Rycaut @APBBlue I follow an acquaintance on Facebook who I find extremely funny. When he 'liked' my replies, which I intended to be funny too, I was flattered. I later discovered he 'likes' anyone that says anything to him. He just means 'thanks for reading what I wrote and bothering to respond'. His 'likes' were devalued by this knowledge. If we weren't keeping count, why would we call it 'social capital'?
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My advice to newcomers:
1. Follow a lot of accounts. There's no algorithm here, so it takes a little work to make sure you have a lively feed.
2. Check and follow #hashtags of interest. It's a great way to find good accounts to follow!
3. Be sure to add alt-text to your photos and videos. We take accessibility seriously here, and your blind followers will appreciate it.
4. Enjoy! We're glad you're here!
@APBBlue I do not follow a lot of accounts. I want my timeline staying clearly arranged. I follow hashtags of the topics I estimate.
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@APBBlue I do not follow a lot of accounts. I want my timeline staying clearly arranged. I follow hashtags of the topics I estimate.
@Irisfreundin That's fine! Whatever works for you.
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Also
Have a bio that is more than generic guff.
Have profile and header images (but not busty ones).
Make a few posts before following others.
In the last day I've blocked two accounts.
Both created the last day.
Both had no posts.
Both had followed several dozen accounts.
One had no photos,
the other a very pretty female profile pic and a busty no face header pic. -
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