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  • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

    @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

    It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

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    #8

    @xavez@me.dm Thank you, stranger on the Fediverse, for insinuating that my 30+ years of experience, being deep in the trenches of how the internet and the web works means I „don’t possibly know“ how things work. Welcome to my blocklist!

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

      #ThanksEU

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      #9

      @jwildeboer In the image, YES should be replaced by FOR SURE 😉

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      • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

        @jwildeboer on top of that there really are legitimate benign reasons to track user behaviour and make improvements to websites and applications, that do require some form of cookies or persistent storage on the user’s device.

        It’s too easy to wave the data brokers and tracking flag, because the cynical truth is that you don’t even need cookies to do that part.

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        #10

        @xavez @jwildeboer it's messed up because the sector failed to explain what cookies can do in a way that policy makers and politicians can comprehend and work with. Saving the advertising income from policy driven disruption was a larger concern, and now we are stuck with the banners (if you don't block them, run a pi-hole, and avoid advertising hell holes).

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        • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

          @xavez @jwildeboer it's messed up because the sector failed to explain what cookies can do in a way that policy makers and politicians can comprehend and work with. Saving the advertising income from policy driven disruption was a larger concern, and now we are stuck with the banners (if you don't block them, run a pi-hole, and avoid advertising hell holes).

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          #11

          @wsslmn @jwildeboer yep that’s a part of it for sure. That said if you’re going to pass any law that’s so important, shouldn’t you attempt to understand the thing you’re regulating at a slightly deeper level?

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          • J johnrohde@helvede.net

            @jwildeboer EU is pretty cool and likely the most important thing post WWII Europe have ever done.
            Perfect, F no, but a big step in the right direction.

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            #12

            @johnrohde @jwildeboer OK, thank you for that because it's important perspective that maybe this type of marketing is needed and works (I'm not a fan, it's just so... limp, lol! But I'm also not the target audience, I guess).

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

              #ThanksEU

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              #13

              @jwildeboer Norway and the UK have also EU Roaming.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                #ThanksEU

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                #14

                @jwildeboer I’m still yet to be convinced that forcing everything to USB-C charging was effective and didn’t generate a bunch of ewaste.

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                • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

                  @wsslmn @jwildeboer yep that’s a part of it for sure. That said if you’re going to pass any law that’s so important, shouldn’t you attempt to understand the thing you’re regulating at a slightly deeper level?

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                  #15

                  @xavez @jwildeboer yes, but if the experts from the sector don't inform you well, what else can there be done?

                  They wanted to keep the responsibility with the end user, and they succeeded. The same sector was very angry at the annoying banners, while this was also what they suggested to the policy makers.

                  Be very careful when you write down your wishes and send them to people who turn those whishes into policy!

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                  • wiredfire@mstdn.socialW wiredfire@mstdn.social

                    @jwildeboer I’m still yet to be convinced that forcing everything to USB-C charging was effective and didn’t generate a bunch of ewaste.

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                    #16

                    @wiredfire Looking at my big box of weird chargers that I probably have not used since many years and probably never will — not sure 😉

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                      #ThanksEU

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                      #17

                      @jwildeboer one charger works… bwahahahahaha…

                      What few USB C devices and cables I already have are already a tricky mess that has me completely fed up with it.

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        @xavez@me.dm Thank you, stranger on the Fediverse, for insinuating that my 30+ years of experience, being deep in the trenches of how the internet and the web works means I „don’t possibly know“ how things work. Welcome to my blocklist!

                        harbeider@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #18

                        @jwildeboer @xavez didn't write *that*, Blocklist Hero.

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                        • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                          @jwildeboer one charger works… bwahahahahaha…

                          What few USB C devices and cables I already have are already a tricky mess that has me completely fed up with it.

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                          #19

                          @mirabilos Some people just always have to be negative about everything because they still think that's how they get an audience. Welcome to my blocklist!

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                            #ThanksEU

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                            #20

                            @jwildeboer
                            This is the kind of posts I love, positive, constructive, clever, with humour, thanks

                            #thanks #danke

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                            • harbeider@mastodon.socialH harbeider@mastodon.social

                              @jwildeboer @xavez didn't write *that*, Blocklist Hero.

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                              #21

                              @harbeider @jwildeboer indeed I did not 😅 not worth the energy…

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                                #ThanksEU

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                                #22

                                @jwildeboer to some extend, and for people in the EU.

                                Don't look at it's borders though....

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  @wiredfire Looking at my big box of weird chargers that I probably have not used since many years and probably never will — not sure 😉

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                                  #23

                                  @jwildeboer Ha! Thing is we already had de facto universal charging in that regardless of if the device itself used micro USB or USB-C or lightening everything went into a charger with a USB-A port on it. Then gear started turning up with cables with USB-C at both ends and folk needed to buy new chargers when their USB-A ones were still perfectly functional. And I refuse to concede the often cited notion that carrying 2-3 wires instead of one (which all worked on a USB-A charger) was a problem 😅

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                                  • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

                                    @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

                                    It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

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                                    #24

                                    @xavez @jwildeboer Are you complaining about the regulation or the enforcement of the regulation?

                                    Where in the regulation does it say ”you have to show annoying buttons to all your users and try to trick them into pressing the wrong button”?

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      Repost from https://todon.eu/@marcohackney/115992340469511552 with ALT text added. Unified chargers, free roaming, travel, study and work everywhere in the EU, simple bank transfers with SEPA and Wero. EU makes life better.

                                      #ThanksEU

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                                      #25

                                      @jwildeboer Also, regulating banks a lot is right on point.

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                                      • xavez@me.dmX xavez@me.dm

                                        @jwildeboer you can’t possibly know but I understand all of that better than you might think.

                                        It’s the implementation that’s the mess. Leaving this to millions of websites was a bad idea. It should have always been a browser preference. One exists and could have been adapted.

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                                        #26

                                        @xavez @jwildeboer

                                        It’s the implementation that’s the mess

                                        Adversarial compliance is.

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                                        • wiredfire@mstdn.socialW wiredfire@mstdn.social

                                          @jwildeboer Ha! Thing is we already had de facto universal charging in that regardless of if the device itself used micro USB or USB-C or lightening everything went into a charger with a USB-A port on it. Then gear started turning up with cables with USB-C at both ends and folk needed to buy new chargers when their USB-A ones were still perfectly functional. And I refuse to concede the often cited notion that carrying 2-3 wires instead of one (which all worked on a USB-A charger) was a problem 😅

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                                          #27

                                          @wiredfire @jwildeboer The really nice thing is that you don’t require everyone else to have 3 cables when you need to borrow their charger.

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