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  • pablomartini@climatejustice.socialP pablomartini@climatejustice.social

    @tinmouth @mttaggart

    I was a fan of a King Crimson tribute band Toploader & a cd I had started mis-tracking

    I emailed the management a new one was promptly sent, off the cuff I was told then back up your CDs as the lifespan even of manufactured discs was not assured!

    Back to vinyl!

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    #72

    @PabloMartini @mttaggart yea some of my earliest ones - not even that early in the scheme of CDs - have rotted.

    Yet audio tapes still play, c64 tapes still load fine.

    Seems like a standard tech con!

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      You see what's happening right?

      They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

      At astronomical rents.

      https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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      #73

      @mttaggart Sooner or later the absolute and complete control over all electronic devices by those operating gigantically expensive chip fabrication centres would start to exploit that monopoly. Much as those extracting and controlling rare and vital minerals used in devices.

      Modern life is a tad precarious.

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      • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

        @mttaggart

        Nah, don't be that dystopian. It'll suck for sure, however they will still want to get rid of all of the old used ones on a regular basis...

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        #74

        @agowa338 @mttaggart they use mostly enterprise disks that can't be used on consumer PC.

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        • threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.caT threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.ca

          @mttaggart I don't believe in this take, and I'm especially not a big fan of the conspiratorial language you're using to describe it. How does a large spike in demand for a monopolized industry give any indication that the goal is to move users over to cloud computing? What makes this different from the pandemic shortage, or the 2011 Japan earthquake? From my perspective, this takes away from a lot of the closer, very concrete problems AI is causing right now.

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          #75

          @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart a few months ago Bezos said on an interview that in the future all workloads will be on the cloud. This doesn't prove all of them want or are planning and trying to kill personal computing without the cloud, but certainly some are.

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          • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

            @agowa338 @mttaggart they use mostly enterprise disks that can't be used on consumer PC.

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            #76

            @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart

            As in SAS? Just buy a cheap SAS controller...

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            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              You see what's happening right?

              They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

              At astronomical rents.

              https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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              #77

              @mttaggart I think I heard/read of certain Sci-Fi stories where in a certain future owning some tech like "independent PCs" will be illegal and you will be arrested for that but it also will be mandatory to own a "State controlled computer terminal" where you'll be forced to report your daily "achievements" and of course everything you do will be monitored ... this sounded like Sci-Fi .. now it sounds less Sci-Fi ...

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                You see what's happening right?

                They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                At astronomical rents.

                https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                #78

                @mttaggart all these trillions of AI dollars have to amortize themselves.

                Sunk cost fallacy par excelence, we have to foot the bill

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                • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                  You see what's happening right?

                  They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                  At astronomical rents.

                  https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                  #79

                  @mttaggart Computers have been a life long special interest for me. If not familiar, look up what that means and how intense it is (Re: Autism).

                  I will sooner give that up than rent it!

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    You see what's happening right?

                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                    At astronomical rents.

                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                    #80

                    @mttaggart can the bubble please pop now? please? I'm tired of this.

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                    • tinmouth@infosec.exchangeT tinmouth@infosec.exchange

                      @PabloMartini @mttaggart yea some of my earliest ones - not even that early in the scheme of CDs - have rotted.

                      Yet audio tapes still play, c64 tapes still load fine.

                      Seems like a standard tech con!

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                      #81

                      @tinmouth @PabloMartini @mttaggart you can buy (or could buy back in the day) 100 year archival quality DVD-Rs.

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                      • wesley@defcon.socialW wesley@defcon.social

                        @mttaggart I just came across this recent article about the 1990s "thin clients" that Oracle was pushing.

                        https://www.techradar.com/pro/its-cheaper-for-you-and-more-profitable-for-us-in-1998-larry-ellison-predicted-the-world-we-live-in-today-where-you-pay-over-and-over-for-software-you-dont-own

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                        #82

                        @wesley self-fulfilling prophecy me thinks

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                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                          You see what's happening right?

                          They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                          At astronomical rents.

                          https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                          #83

                          @mttaggart When the "AI" bubble pops, they'll be using all those data centres for massive cloud computing services.

                          Hang on to your hardware and treat it well.

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            To clarify: I am saying this is what they want. Not that it is inevitable. But it's difficult to ignore the clear pattern of strategic decisions by these companies since the dawn of "services" until this benighted age.

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                            #84

                            @mttaggart OpenAI apparently buying up 40% of RAM wafers and just hoarding them definitely points in this direction. It may be aimed at competitors, but a handy byproduct is yet more reliance on hyperscalers for the most basic of computing commodities.

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                            • R rufflandings@infosec.exchange

                              @mttaggart I look forward to an upcoming glut of YouTube content discussing home tape library robots.

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                              #85

                              @RuffLandings @mttaggart I wish. Have you seen how expensive LTO drives of any capacity are? I'd go back to tape in a heartbeat if I could.

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                              • oerum@ohai.socialO oerum@ohai.social

                                @lemgandi @mttaggart this sentence has given so many fucking assholes the benefit of the doubt.

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                                #86

                                @oerum @mttaggart

                                I disagree. Both are equally reprehensible. The tactics of opposition may vary.

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                                • longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @tinmouth @mttaggart All of my car mixes on CDR still work, so fingers crossed.

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                                  #87

                                  @Longplay_Games @tinmouth @mttaggart cdrw media is a lot "dimmer" so will be unreadable because of fading long before a typical cdr, so you should have some time.

                                  (That "dimmer" quality is why some devices had trouble trading cdrws back in the day, you need a better laser or related optics to get a usable return)

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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    You see what's happening right?

                                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                    At astronomical rents.

                                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                    #88

                                    @mttaggart Waiting to hear that Sam Altman has personally bought 50% of the hard drives...

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                                    • koakuma@uwu.socialK koakuma@uwu.social

                                      @the_turtle @mttaggart It gets sent into the shredder in the name of privacy?

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQoKFovvigI though this is a video by Google from 2013 and I dunno if they're still doing it now

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                                      #89

                                      @koakuma @mttaggart i am laughing very hard. I used to love the stories on birdsite about all the fun stuff guys would find on "properly wiped" drives discarded or sold in lots from datacenters, or just thrown out back in a dumpster at BestBuy.

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                                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                        You see what's happening right?

                                        They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                        At astronomical rents.

                                        https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                        #90

                                        @mttaggart you'll own nothing and you'll be grateful

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                                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                          You see what's happening right?

                                          They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                          At astronomical rents.

                                          https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                          #91

                                          @mttaggart hasn't the consumer market moved pretty fully to SSD? Last year I bought a new computer for the first time in six years, and asked the guy if there will be a place in it for my old 2tb HDD, he said yes. When I got home, couldn't find it. Turned out they meant there's room for another SSD. Had to jury rig a solution to make it work.

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