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đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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    @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s even a meme for that


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    • aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA aprilfollies@mastodon.online

      @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s even a meme for that


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      @aprilfollies @cstross @Richard_Littler to understand some of the problems in America right now, all you have to do is listen to any Art Bell show from the 90s and oooh boy

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      • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

        đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
        I've had this book since I was a little kid.

        #ancientaliens

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        #47

        @Richard_Littler Now the ancient aliens-guy has to do all the heavy bullshit lifting himself!

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        • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

          Nearby, he even has his own walking path based around the events of his life.

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          #48

          @Richard_Littler I like the idea of placing someone’s biography along a path.

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          • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

            @Richard_Littler
            Co-writer & editor was a literal NAZI. I didn't know that till yesterday.
            It all makes more sense now, the "Indigenous peoples can't do the clever stuff" A White Supremacist Ideology makes more sense of it,

            I read "Chariot of the Gods" in 1972 approx.
            Very plausible if you are ignorant.
            I read a good debunking maybe the next year.
            Debunked over 50 years ago and yet was on a Digital Pay TV "factual" channel in UK & Ireland.

            It was also dishonest in the presentation of facts!

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            @raymaccarthy @Richard_Littler Yeah, lots of that stuff comes from the Nazis and specifically the Ahnenerbe, and their attempts to prove Nordicism and suchlike bullshit.

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            • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

              @isaackuo @cstross @Richard_Littler Maybe not quite so profitable but Graham Hancock has still made a lot of money and been given a highish profile perpetuating the same racist pseudoscience in the past few decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

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              #50

              @JonnyT @isaackuo @cstross @Richard_Littler And this stuff is all over TikTok and YouTube shorts. It seems to be impossible to stamp it out.

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              • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                @Richard_Littler

                I have never heard of this and just found out, it's near Interlaken and around a children's fun fair, called "Mysty Land".

                https://jungfraupark.ch/mysty-land/

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                @mina @Richard_Littler

                We were in Interlaken! With two kids! And I had no idea I had the perfect opportunity to introduce them to the fascinating world of slightly racist pseudoscience.

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                • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                  đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                  I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                  #ancientaliens

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                  #52

                  @Richard_Littler

                  His theory in a nutshell:

                  Brown people couldn't possibly have been smart enough to do engineering.

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                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                    @cstross @Richard_Littler It's curious that the Egyptians and Maya had to have some help from aliens but the Romans didn't, isn't it?

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                    #53

                    @datarama @cstross @Richard_Littler

                    I don't think the Romans built anywhere near that tall. I think it wasn't until well into the middle ages that buildings surpassed the pyramids in height.

                    There's a popular idea that the Eiffel Tower was the first structure taller than the pyramids, but that's false. People in the middle ages got ridiculously good at building tall from all those cathedrals.

                    The Lincoln Cathedral in 1311 surpassed it, but it's possible that the Yongning Pagoda already briefly surpassed it in 516.

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                    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                      đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                      I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                      #ancientaliens

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                      #54

                      @Richard_Littler I remember bringing this book to my freshman high school honors biology class. My teacher rapped me gently on the head with a 1m ruler and said "You know that's all bullshit, right?" (It was a Catholic school, so the ruler was expected.) 😎

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                      • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                        đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                        I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                        #ancientaliens

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                        #55

                        @Richard_Littler The PBS show Nova here in the USA did some great shows about how it was possible for all of this stuff to be done by so-called "primitives" - when you've got a motivated populace that intrinsically understands their environment and landscape, anything is possible, given enough time.

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                        • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                          DĂ€niken's 'paleo-contact' claims of extraterrestrial influences on early human development, attracted a dedicated following, despite his earlier convictions for theft, fraud and embezzlement (and robust debunking of his theories). Films, soundtracks, and even prog concept albums followed his books.

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                          #56

                          @Richard_Littler Why the f*ck is the Saturn V in that illustration? đŸ€Ł

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                          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                            @cstross Now, that concept worked out *much* better.
                            My photos of the Giger-designed bar in GruyĂšres...

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                            #57

                            @Richard_Littler @cstross post alien my next childhood encounter with Giger's work was the use of "Landscape #XX" for the Dead Kennedy's album "Frankenchrist". I think its use as cover art was banned, at least I never saw a copy in the wild, but was included as a poster insert. (It also almost lead to having Jello Biafra locked up for distributing harmful material to minors and bankrupting the Alternative Tentacles record label.)

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                            • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                              đŸ§” Erich von DĂ€niken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                              I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                              #ancientaliens

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                              @Richard_Littler @cmthiede If I’d known about Betteridge’s Law of Headlines 50 years ago, I would never have read that book.

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                              • mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM mcv@friendica.opensocial.space

                                @mina @Richard_Littler

                                We were in Interlaken! With two kids! And I had no idea I had the perfect opportunity to introduce them to the fascinating world of slightly racist pseudoscience.

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                                #59

                                @mcv

                                😂 What a miss!

                                @Richard_Littler

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