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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    RSS never tracked you.
    Email never throttled you.
    Blogs never begged for dopamine.
    The old web wasn’t perfect.
    But it was yours.

    jeff@noxon.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jeff@noxon.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jeff@noxon.cc
    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #32

    @Daojoan I was so sad a couple weeks ago when the SMBC feed removed the content. I'll only see it now when it gets shared by copy/paste.

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    • r@glauca.spaceR r@glauca.space

      @Daojoan to join the "well actually" crowd, email absolutely did have throttling, although retry and backoff logic tended to be much more reliable and well-tested back then

      there was a lot of the old internet that wasn't democratized and "yours" (e.g. acquiring connectivity, acquiring compute), although the details have shifted around a lot

      serenus@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
      serenus@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
      serenus@mas.to
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #33

      @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

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      • serenus@mas.toS serenus@mas.to

        @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

        r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
        r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
        r@glauca.space
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #34

        @Serenus @Daojoan yeah, this existed in various places (*especially* _outside_ the United States, where suburbia and monopolies really ruined things). there also existed people hosting stuff on spare computers and using dynamic dns providers

        you gain some, you lose some. nowadays connectivity and compute are *way* easier and more affordable, but the cultural knowledge that you _can_ self-host seems to be disappearing

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          RSS never tracked you.
          Email never throttled you.
          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
          The old web wasn’t perfect.
          But it was yours.

          andrija@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          andrija@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          andrija@floss.social
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #35

          @Daojoan And it still is ❤️‍🔥

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            RSS never tracked you.
            Email never throttled you.
            Blogs never begged for dopamine.
            The old web wasn’t perfect.
            But it was yours.

            bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
            bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
            bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #36

            @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              RSS never tracked you.
              Email never throttled you.
              Blogs never begged for dopamine.
              The old web wasn’t perfect.
              But it was yours.

              wally@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wally@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wally@mastodon.social
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #37

              @Daojoan The old web was perfect. The browser showed you when a page was loading and you knew when it was done loading. Now I never know if the element I'm about to click on is going to change or if the whole page is going to shift.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                @forst Problem with that is - we often paywall our stuff these days so that it isn’t all just scraped and summarised by a smorgasbord of bots. It’s such a balancing problem

                amazing_ariella@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                amazing_ariella@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                amazing_ariella@mastodon.social
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #38

                @Daojoan hello I've been following your post for a while most say you are part of the reason I'm still on here

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  RSS never tracked you.
                  Email never throttled you.
                  Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                  The old web wasn’t perfect.
                  But it was yours.

                  werawelt@social.tchncs.deW This user is from outside of this forum
                  werawelt@social.tchncs.deW This user is from outside of this forum
                  werawelt@social.tchncs.de
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #39

                  @Daojoan
                  Yeah! 👍
                  The old web is still there.
                  I use RSS with fluent-reader
                  I use email with #deltachat
                  I use a blog with own domain

                  You just have to ignore the commercial Social Media and advertising with f.e. uBlock, then you'll see it 🙂

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                  • funes@infosec.exchangeF funes@infosec.exchange

                    @Daojoan my Dragonball Z angelfire fan page with an endless scroll of stolen gifs however did beg for dopamine

                    murdoc@autistics.lifeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #40

                    @funes @Daojoan
                    I still have a site like that sitting on my hard drive.
                    Ah, the good ol' days.

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      RSS never tracked you.
                      Email never throttled you.
                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                      But it was yours.

                      codingitwrong@tdd.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                      codingitwrong@tdd.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                      codingitwrong@tdd.social
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #41

                      @Daojoan @mdx minor clarification: email tracked you, though

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        RSS never tracked you.
                        Email never throttled you.
                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                        But it was yours.

                        loserhead@me.ns.ciL This user is from outside of this forum
                        loserhead@me.ns.ciL This user is from outside of this forum
                        loserhead@me.ns.ci
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #42

                        @Daojoan
                        To me, they are just passive web, much unlike the active web now.
                        They will never die, unlike the companys.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          RSS never tracked you.
                          Email never throttled you.
                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                          But it was yours.

                          jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jeffgrigg@mastodon.social
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #43

                          @Daojoan

                          Usenet news groups stayed on topic!

                          They were organized by topic.

                          I keep wondering why we abandoned that idea.

                          😿

                          ...

                          (Well yes, it's still there and one can still use it. But so much of it has been taken over by robots pushing spam. 😢 )

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                          • kajord@hachyderm.ioK kajord@hachyderm.io

                            @Daojoan blogs definitely begged for dopamine, but it was slower release than the kind we have now.

                            quincypeck@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            quincypeck@mastodon.social
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #44

                            @kajord @Daojoan the way I would constantly refresh my RSS reader…

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              RSS never tracked you.
                              Email never throttled you.
                              Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                              The old web wasn’t perfect.
                              But it was yours.

                              mingistech@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mingistech@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mingistech@toot.community
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #45

                              @Daojoan @lisamelton Hell, now most people use a browser that’s spyware from a marketing company. Dark times.

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                              • mingistech@toot.communityM mingistech@toot.community

                                @Daojoan @lisamelton Hell, now most people use a browser that’s spyware from a marketing company. Dark times.

                                daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                daojoan@mastodon.social
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #46

                                @mingistech @lisamelton Indeed.

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  RSS never tracked you.
                                  Email never throttled you.
                                  Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                  The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                  But it was yours.

                                  tfburkepoetry@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  tfburkepoetry@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  tfburkepoetry@mastodon.social
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #47

                                  @Daojoan yes! Agreed!😊

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    RSS never tracked you.
                                    Email never throttled you.
                                    Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                    The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                    But it was yours.

                                    nosaj@aus.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    nosaj@aus.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    nosaj@aus.social
                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #48

                                    @Daojoan

                                    You clearly never owed Email money. 🤣

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                                    • nawanp@fe.disroot.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      nawanp@fe.disroot.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      nawanp@fe.disroot.org
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #49

                                      Stop romanticizing the old web. It's flawed but should be acknowledged for what it is.

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                                      • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                        @Daojoan but...but...KPIs! engagement metrics!

                                        digirights@tooot.imD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        digirights@tooot.imD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        digirights@tooot.im
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #50

                                        @patrick_h_lauke @Daojoan noticed how they never measure engagement with family and friends? Set KPIs for mental wellbeing and sleep cycle? It's like they work for big psychiatry!

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                                        • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

                                          @Daojoan

                                          Usenet news groups stayed on topic!

                                          They were organized by topic.

                                          I keep wondering why we abandoned that idea.

                                          😿

                                          ...

                                          (Well yes, it's still there and one can still use it. But so much of it has been taken over by robots pushing spam. 😢 )

                                          jamesb192@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jamesb192@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jamesb192@fosstodon.org
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #51

                                          @JeffGrigg @Daojoan pathetic penis pill pushing profiteers. Not just the placebos, but mostly.

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