...what he said 👇

@Vivaldi

I still got errors, when using pads like the pads from riseup for example. What am I doing wrong?

@Vivaldi LOL great endorsement.

@Vivaldi That's def. a huge reason to use it ️

@Vivaldi Been using Vivaldi for a while now, great alternative to escape Google and Mozilla bullshittery.

@Vivaldi To be honest, I'm starting to get a little annoyed by all this self-promotion on the topic of AI.

The fact that someone with minimal interest in the subject wrote this only proves that some people want AI in their browser.

If AI is optional, then I don't see any problem with it

@Distante @Vivaldi, it's not so simple, certainly tthere are users which want an AI inbuild in the browser, but the question is which one?

A stock AI which pretends to do everything, without doing nothing well? Biased AI of some big corporations? Any Chatbot with a thin LLM which can't summarize articles more complex than the daily news without mistakes?

With currently over 10.000 AI apps and services, made for very specific tasks and very different Quality, it' simply don't make sense an inbuild stock AI, which may be usefull for some users and not for the rest. It makes much more sense that the user himself add the AI which is really usefull for him if he want, in Vivaldi very easy as extension, search engine, bookmark, web panel or desktop app, instead of enable/diseable a given crappy one inbuild in the browser, because it is the current hype.

At least, with DuckDuckGo, one of the default search engines in Vivaldi, yo have already an AI (DuckAI) in Vivaldi, which you can use for free, if you want.

@_rya_

Please share more details about the issue. What are you doing when you get the errors and what do the error messages say?

You should also check our troubleshooting suggestions on https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/troubleshooting-issues/.

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@Catweazle @Vivaldi If I understand correctly, your position is that "users can use extensions."

I can install extensions for notes. Vivaldi has its own built-in notes that do not disappear from the right-click context menu if I disable "additional features: RSS, Mail, and whatever else."

@Catweazle @Vivaldi I'm not saying that AI is high quality or that it's necessary.

But I don't understand the position itself if the user is simply given a choice.

If the user doesn't use it = they have privacy, then that's okay.

If the user doesn't use it = AI analyses you, then that's bad.

@Vivaldi Maybe Tech Radar uses _too much_ AI, that could explain a lot

@Distante @Vivaldi, that is one of the reasons, Vivaldi don't have a own AI or LLM, that means, if you want an inbuild AI in the browser, Vivaldi need to use an third party app, yes or yes. Trust it in privacy or selfhost it in a own dedicated server for several millon users.
Repeating the question, with what AI company you want the inbuild stock AI?
There is the one of Proton as possibility, but I tested it and it's crap, telling BS.
Apart of this one , which?

This is because it is way more productive, that this must be in the hand of the user himself to select an AI which is usefull for him.