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  • holger@hellinger.wtfH holger@hellinger.wtf

    @AwetTesfaiesus das wäre mal was als Beispiel für die DE Grünen.

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    #24

    @holger @AwetTesfaiesus gestern den Kommentar von Özdemir gehört?

    Mit den jetzigen Grünen ist keine wirtschaftskritische oder klassenkritische Politik zu erwarten.

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    • berlinerpflanze@berlin.socialB berlinerpflanze@berlin.social shared this topic
    • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

      Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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      #25

      @LaChasseuse I had put off watching this thinking it was a Brit thing. But Wowwwwww!

      So eloquent. STOP.

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      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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        #26

        @LaChasseuse
        If you are outside the UK, you might not recognise Zak Polanski - recently elected as leader of the UK Green Party.
        Great video, strong message.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Polanski?wprov=sfla1

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        • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

          Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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          #27

          @LaChasseuse problem is the politicians are puppets of the civil service and the rich. Labour promised a lot and have delivered the opposite.

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          • megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social

            @LaChasseuse

            Yup, BREXIT really was a fuckwitted idea.

            #rEUnion

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            #28

            @megatronicthronbanks @LaChasseuse perhaps not BREXIT as sold but BREXIT as 'negotiated' by those who were anti it for sure.

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            • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

              @holger @AwetTesfaiesus gestern den Kommentar von Özdemir gehört?

              Mit den jetzigen Grünen ist keine wirtschaftskritische oder klassenkritische Politik zu erwarten.

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              #29

              @lobingera @holger an der uk Kampagne ist überhaupt nichts wirtschaftskritisch

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              • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                #30

                @LaChasseuse With Mark Carney's 'rupture' speech and this ad from Zak Polanski (UK Green Party) it's beginning to feel like more positive change is coming (eventually) #politics #ukpolitics

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                • awettesfaiesus@mastodon.socialA awettesfaiesus@mastodon.social

                  @lobingera @holger an der uk Kampagne ist überhaupt nichts wirtschaftskritisch

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                  #31

                  @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger 🤔 „this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“

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                  • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                    Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                    #32

                    @LaChasseuse It's a great ad, and a well-argued point, but the problem is that many parties already run on this and none of them do anything but stuff more money into the 1%. We had a supposedly "progressive" government for four years in Germany. Not a green one, yes, but one where the social-democratic party who also always runs on "small people, workers, unions, economic justice" stuff was the biggest part, and it was just more shafting for workers. Now under a conservative government that AGAIN has the social-democratic party in it (as the junior partner this time) it's of course more shafting (and berating people, endlessly). The real problem is that people who would actually change things are not available for election. They don't get to run. The apparatus of the parties filters them out, because all parties, regardless of what their programs say, know that once they come into government, they will be told the same old thing: "Look, we're glad you're here, but if we don't like your policies we'll take so much capital out of your economy that it will collapse. So watch it!" And there we go again.

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                    • tarnport@mastodon.greenT tarnport@mastodon.green

                      @LaChasseuse I had put off watching this thinking it was a Brit thing. But Wowwwwww!

                      So eloquent. STOP.

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                      #33
                      @Tarnport @LaChasseuse

                      We're all working so hard to create wealth, just not for ourselves.
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                      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                        #34

                        @LaChasseuse damn he’s good

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                        • flohlaus@det.socialF flohlaus@det.social

                          @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger 🤔 „this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“

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                          #35

                          @flohlaus @AwetTesfaiesus @holger Danke, ich hänge gerade nicht voll am Internet und hatte keine Zeit das Video noch mal zu sehen und evtl. Transkipt zu sichten

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                          • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @LaChasseuse problem is the politicians are puppets of the civil service and the rich. Labour promised a lot and have delivered the opposite.

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                            #36

                            @EF @LaChasseuse

                            The civil service aren't puppet-masters, they're administrators and workers who try to implement whatever policy, good or bad, the government dictates. They will advise about difficulties, but they are definitely not calling the shots; their advice is frequently ignored.

                            You can choose politicians who aren't puppets of the rich; that's the point of voting. Most people may not see that choice clearly, but that's the point of campaigning. Hence the video.

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                            • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                              #37

                              @LaChasseuse that gave me goosebumps. I've watched it about a dozen times and it still gives me goosebumps

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                              • darkpixel@infosec.exchangeD darkpixel@infosec.exchange

                                @LaChasseuse This is amazing! A+ efforts for running and memorizing speech, at that. How does he do it?

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                                #38

                                @darkpixel @LaChasseuse Multiple takes, edited together.

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                                • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                                  Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                                  #39

                                  @LaChasseuse are UK Greens actually lefties or just right wing capitalists with a modicum decency as a veneer on top?

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                                  • phf@mastodon.deP phf@mastodon.de

                                    @LaChasseuse It's a great ad, and a well-argued point, but the problem is that many parties already run on this and none of them do anything but stuff more money into the 1%. We had a supposedly "progressive" government for four years in Germany. Not a green one, yes, but one where the social-democratic party who also always runs on "small people, workers, unions, economic justice" stuff was the biggest part, and it was just more shafting for workers. Now under a conservative government that AGAIN has the social-democratic party in it (as the junior partner this time) it's of course more shafting (and berating people, endlessly). The real problem is that people who would actually change things are not available for election. They don't get to run. The apparatus of the parties filters them out, because all parties, regardless of what their programs say, know that once they come into government, they will be told the same old thing: "Look, we're glad you're here, but if we don't like your policies we'll take so much capital out of your economy that it will collapse. So watch it!" And there we go again.

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                                    #40

                                    @phf @LaChasseuse the reality is, the people want change without an actual change. The gender debate is a good example. All the conservatives, old people, youngsters, all have the wish to have a good community that helps each other, is kind, respectful, etc. But when it is about to give members of this community some more desired visibility the people are not willing to just spell something different. I don't want to open this debate but abstracting the principal makes my point.

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                                    • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                                      @EF @LaChasseuse

                                      The civil service aren't puppet-masters, they're administrators and workers who try to implement whatever policy, good or bad, the government dictates. They will advise about difficulties, but they are definitely not calling the shots; their advice is frequently ignored.

                                      You can choose politicians who aren't puppets of the rich; that's the point of voting. Most people may not see that choice clearly, but that's the point of campaigning. Hence the video.

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                                      #41

                                      @petealexharris @EF @LaChasseuse Also, as someone who worked in and around politics before jumping to the grassroots side of things?

                                      A thing people weirdly forget about politicians is that they're human beings with subjectivities, blind spots, and just personal limits. They flinch, they sometimes panic, they take shortcuts, they have really normal, run-of-the-mill human failure modes. It's really less frequent that someone is a puppet to a sinister master, and much more common that they're not playing to their strengths on something and bottled it.

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                                      • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                                        @EF @LaChasseuse

                                        The civil service aren't puppet-masters, they're administrators and workers who try to implement whatever policy, good or bad, the government dictates. They will advise about difficulties, but they are definitely not calling the shots; their advice is frequently ignored.

                                        You can choose politicians who aren't puppets of the rich; that's the point of voting. Most people may not see that choice clearly, but that's the point of campaigning. Hence the video.

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                                        #42

                                        @petealexharris @LaChasseuse in the past, yes. Now, it appears the tables have turned and Labour are currently devolving more power to the civil service.

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                                        • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @megatronicthronbanks @LaChasseuse perhaps not BREXIT as sold but BREXIT as 'negotiated' by those who were anti it for sure.

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                                          #43

                                          @LaChasseuse @EF @megatronicthronbanks nah it was entirely stupid.

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