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You see what's happening right?

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  • pablomartini@climatejustice.socialP pablomartini@climatejustice.social

    @scott @botolo86 @mttaggart

    Did ZX81 basic!

    On a portable 5" TV screen!

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    #92

    @PabloMartini @botolo86 @mttaggart let me guess if, as a result, your glasses are now as thick as mine… 😅

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    • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

      @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart a few months ago Bezos said on an interview that in the future all workloads will be on the cloud. This doesn't prove all of them want or are planning and trying to kill personal computing without the cloud, but certainly some are.

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      #93

      @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart I'm going to assume you mean the interview described here, please correct me if you mean something else:

      https://youtu.be/s71nJQqzYRQ?t=3110

      To me, Lex Luthor repeatedly referring to AWS in this segment tells me that he's thinking about data centres rather than personal computing. Amazon has consumer facing cloud products like Luna that could have been name dropped. Thats why the brewery metaphor gets so much attention. Every ChatGPT wrapper running their own data centre actually is turbo unsustainable!

      I could see Amazon selling people on a subscription to a traditional laptop or desktop. We already have seen that with companies with Corsair and HP. But to me, the number of articles I see misinterpreting this interview screams of a propaganda campaign to make subscription hardware seem reasonable.

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      • threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.caT threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.ca

        @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart I'm going to assume you mean the interview described here, please correct me if you mean something else:

        https://youtu.be/s71nJQqzYRQ?t=3110

        To me, Lex Luthor repeatedly referring to AWS in this segment tells me that he's thinking about data centres rather than personal computing. Amazon has consumer facing cloud products like Luna that could have been name dropped. Thats why the brewery metaphor gets so much attention. Every ChatGPT wrapper running their own data centre actually is turbo unsustainable!

        I could see Amazon selling people on a subscription to a traditional laptop or desktop. We already have seen that with companies with Corsair and HP. But to me, the number of articles I see misinterpreting this interview screams of a propaganda campaign to make subscription hardware seem reasonable.

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        #94

        @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart I think it's.

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        • dubikan@tooot.imD dubikan@tooot.im

          @mttaggart hasn't the consumer market moved pretty fully to SSD? Last year I bought a new computer for the first time in six years, and asked the guy if there will be a place in it for my old 2tb HDD, he said yes. When I got home, couldn't find it. Turned out they meant there's room for another SSD. Had to jury rig a solution to make it work.

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          #95

          @Dubikan @mttaggart yes but the same thing already happend for ram and ssds

          also for large amounts of data hdd are still better (at least cheaper) 🤷

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          • threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.caT threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.ca

            @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart I'm going to assume you mean the interview described here, please correct me if you mean something else:

            https://youtu.be/s71nJQqzYRQ?t=3110

            To me, Lex Luthor repeatedly referring to AWS in this segment tells me that he's thinking about data centres rather than personal computing. Amazon has consumer facing cloud products like Luna that could have been name dropped. Thats why the brewery metaphor gets so much attention. Every ChatGPT wrapper running their own data centre actually is turbo unsustainable!

            I could see Amazon selling people on a subscription to a traditional laptop or desktop. We already have seen that with companies with Corsair and HP. But to me, the number of articles I see misinterpreting this interview screams of a propaganda campaign to make subscription hardware seem reasonable.

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            #96

            @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart I can see that too, but I can also see PC's becoming not much more than glorified dumb terminals that display what is computed on the cloud, and run workloads that companies don't want to pay for, or that just do some processing of data acquire by peripherals, or data to feed peripherals.

            Eventually, AWS will f* their enterprise customers, but not before being useful to them while f* end consumers.

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            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              You see what's happening right?

              They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

              At astronomical rents.

              https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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              #97

              @mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              I'll bang rocks together and hope it'll produce a document before I do sensitive cloud computing on somebody else's computer.

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              • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                @RuffLandings @mttaggart I wish. Have you seen how expensive LTO drives of any capacity are? I'd go back to tape in a heartbeat if I could.

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                #98

                @mason @mttaggart I’ve been trying my hardest to not look at *any* equipment prices. I’ve been failing, but trying!

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                • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

                  @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart I can see that too, but I can also see PC's becoming not much more than glorified dumb terminals that display what is computed on the cloud, and run workloads that companies don't want to pay for, or that just do some processing of data acquire by peripherals, or data to feed peripherals.

                  Eventually, AWS will f* their enterprise customers, but not before being useful to them while f* end consumers.

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                  #99

                  @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart I welcome the difference in opinion on the future of computing, but there's little evidence that cloud-only hardware is the direction we're headed in right now. There's especially no evidence in the short term.

                  Subscription-based hardware should be the point of concern as it still erodes the consumers right to ownership, and it's already happening. Heck, PlayStation UK just announced an official avenue for leasing the PS5 three days ago.

                  Every mainstream news outlet focusing on the idea of cloud-only computing only makes subscription-based hardware seem relatively reasonable.

                  Also, treating this idea as a reality also takes away from conversations about the very real, concrete problems with AI. We're implying that the trillions of dollars being spent on creating a machine to replace workers is actually for a different (and I would argue less evil) purpose.

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    You see what's happening right?

                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                    At astronomical rents.

                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                    #100
                    @mttaggart@infosec.exchange This is the idea, to be digitally dependent... simply slaves.
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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      You see what's happening right?

                      They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                      At astronomical rents.

                      https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                      #101

                      @mttaggart so … SaaS.

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                      • maurice@pompat.usM maurice@pompat.us

                        @mttaggart so … SaaS.

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                        #102

                        @maurice SaaRS

                        Software as a Required Service. Rhymes with another disease.

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                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                          You see what's happening right?

                          They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                          At astronomical rents.

                          https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                          #103

                          @mttaggart https://mstdn.social/@DLC/116080711590784523

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                          • galacticstone@mastodon.socialG galacticstone@mastodon.social

                            @mttaggart Suddenly all that retro "obsolete" hardware isn't so niche and worthless. I have a stack of old laptops to cannibalize - enough to last a Linux lifetime.

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                            #104
                            Wish I did. Could never afford much hardware, always wore it out until it broke.

                            CC: @mttaggart@infosec.exchange
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