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  • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

    ugh. hetzner just announced a pretty significant price increase. I'm going to have to start some serious downsizing before that happens😕

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    #4

    @jerry
    Site's too fast anyway, you're spoiling us.

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    • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

      @jerry
      Site's too fast anyway, you're spoiling us.

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      #5

      @FritzAdalis I know, seems like AI will help take care of that problem indirectly (AI being the reason their prices are going up)

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      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

        @lexinova they are citing rising ram prices as the reason to increase my prices.

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        #6

        @jerry yeah still AI fault so 😅

        but i really hope AI bubble enter market correction soon to bankrupt all those crappy AI tech bro and make crash the price to normal level.

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        • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

          @jerry yeah still AI fault so 😅

          but i really hope AI bubble enter market correction soon to bankrupt all those crappy AI tech bro and make crash the price to normal level.

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          #7

          @lexinova I think it could take a few years for that to happen, but it will happen enventually

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          • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

            ugh. hetzner just announced a pretty significant price increase. I'm going to have to start some serious downsizing before that happens😕

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            #8

            @jerry Be ready for all providers to announce some in the coming weeks, the hardware world is on fire right now thanks to OpenAI and their shenanigans to kill their competitors (and the AI bubble overall).
            OVH announced a 10-15% increase as well.

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            • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

              @jerry Be ready for all providers to announce some in the coming weeks, the hardware world is on fire right now thanks to OpenAI and their shenanigans to kill their competitors (and the AI bubble overall).
              OVH announced a 10-15% increase as well.

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              #9

              @renchap I don't blame Hetzner, and I know they aren't the only ones. It's going to soon impact just about everything else we do online, I am guessing.

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              • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                @renchap I don't blame Hetzner, and I know they aren't the only ones. It's going to soon impact just about everything else we do online, I am guessing.

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                #10

                @jerry I foresee a 25% to 50% price increase in the next 2 years for everything requiring hardware, including servers, cloud but also laptops and phones. This will have a *huge* impact.

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                • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                  ugh. hetzner just announced a pretty significant price increase. I'm going to have to start some serious downsizing before that happens😕

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                  #11

                  @jerry

                  Do we need to contribute some funds to the cause?

                  If so what amount would be helpful? 😊

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                  • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

                    @jerry I foresee a 25% to 50% price increase in the next 2 years for everything requiring hardware, including servers, cloud but also laptops and phones. This will have a *huge* impact.

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                    #12

                    @renchap @jerry we already have 500% increases in ram?

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                    • melroy@mastodon.melroy.orgM melroy@mastodon.melroy.org

                      @renchap @jerry we already have 500% increases in ram?

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                      #13

                      @melroy In RAM yes, I was talking about the total price. RAM (and storage) is only a part of it, so a 500% increase in RAM prices do not raise the total price by 500%.

                      @jerry

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                      • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                        @jerry

                        Do we need to contribute some funds to the cause?

                        If so what amount would be helpful? 😊

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                        #14

                        @simonzerafa @jerry I have the same question! How can we help?

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                        • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

                          @melroy In RAM yes, I was talking about the total price. RAM (and storage) is only a part of it, so a 500% increase in RAM prices do not raise the total price by 500%.

                          @jerry

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                          #15

                          @renchap problem is like you said, storage is basically nvne today, which is also made by the same machines.

                          Same with GPU, which also has ram on board. And recently China also has a high demand on cpus. So overall, CPU, GPU, Ram and storage prices increased. These are all essential components. Maybe GPU in a lesser degree on servers that only host websites. So as long as the Ai bubble doesn't burst, I predict more like a 100% to 200% price increase for a total machine.

                          @jerry

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                          • wxq4987@infosec.exchangeW wxq4987@infosec.exchange

                            @simonzerafa @jerry I have the same question! How can we help?

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                            #16

                            @WXQ4987 @simonzerafa I'm not sure yet. I need to figure out the overall change in costs given the number of servers I have, and figure out what I can replace with something smaller, then figure out what the funding gap (if any) will be. I'll do that this evening after work.

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                            • wxq4987@infosec.exchangeW wxq4987@infosec.exchange

                              @simonzerafa @jerry I have the same question! How can we help?

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                              #17

                              @WXQ4987 @simonzerafa @jerry

                              https://patreon.com/infosecexchange

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                              • melroy@mastodon.melroy.orgM melroy@mastodon.melroy.org

                                @renchap problem is like you said, storage is basically nvne today, which is also made by the same machines.

                                Same with GPU, which also has ram on board. And recently China also has a high demand on cpus. So overall, CPU, GPU, Ram and storage prices increased. These are all essential components. Maybe GPU in a lesser degree on servers that only host websites. So as long as the Ai bubble doesn't burst, I predict more like a 100% to 200% price increase for a total machine.

                                @jerry

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                                #18

                                @melroy @renchap @jerry

                                I bought last year an external SSD for 40 €.
                                Wanted to buy the same one for my daughter last week, it is now 120 €>

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                                • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                  @WXQ4987 @simonzerafa I'm not sure yet. I need to figure out the overall change in costs given the number of servers I have, and figure out what I can replace with something smaller, then figure out what the funding gap (if any) will be. I'll do that this evening after work.

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                                  #19

                                  @jerry @WXQ4987

                                  Please let us know how we can help. I'm sure we all want IE to continue and be successful and less of a burden to you also 😊🖖

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                                  • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                    ugh. hetzner just announced a pretty significant price increase. I'm going to have to start some serious downsizing before that happens😕

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                                    #20

                                    @jerry That is really terrible. I guess the "all important" data centers are busy consuming everything.

                                    Well, perhaps they'll be able to use all that compute to sell ads to me in a more precise way. That seems important.

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                                    • tmaher@infosec.exchangeT tmaher@infosec.exchange

                                      @WXQ4987 @simonzerafa @jerry

                                      https://patreon.com/infosecexchange

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                                      #21

                                      @tmaher

                                      I was thinking more about additional funding, over and above the regular contributions we make.

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                                      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                        ugh. hetzner just announced a pretty significant price increase. I'm going to have to start some serious downsizing before that happens😕

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                                        #22

                                        @jerry Is there any public info about this ?

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                                        • eingfoan@infosec.exchangeE eingfoan@infosec.exchange

                                          @jerry Is there any public info about this ?

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                                          #23

                                          @eingfoan They have a detailed page with the pricing changes here: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment/

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