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  • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

    European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

    #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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    gilesgoat@toot.wales
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    #9

    @royaards I'll repeat it "until the day I'll die" .. there's been times I was shouting "We should NOT .. " and NOBODY WAS LISTENING AND I WAS A FOOL ... NOW LOOK where we are ! "TOLD YOU SO!" .. 😐

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    • anneviv@social.vivaldi.netA anneviv@social.vivaldi.net

      @royaards check out Vivaldi we have a way to help away from Big tech !

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      #10

      @anneviv

      I watched your toot with the Vivaldi browser.
      Thanks for doing the work.

      @royaards

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      • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

        European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

        #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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        #11

        This is a brilliant visual representation of the current situation - I cannot tell if the driver is (irrationally) blaming Trump for getting stuck, or whether he correctly identifies the problem as being chained to American big tech. I struggle to make the same distinction when looking at Brussels. @royaards

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        • anneviv@social.vivaldi.netA anneviv@social.vivaldi.net

          @royaards check out Vivaldi we have a way to help away from Big tech !

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          sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de
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          #12

          @anneviv @royaards to be fair, in the end it's a chromium(Google) based browser.
          So if you are using Vivaldi, you're still somewhat relying on big techs work.

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          • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

            European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

            #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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            decebal07@mastodon.social
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            #13

            @royaards looks about right.

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            • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

              European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

              #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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              #14

              @royaards this

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              • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

                #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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                #15

                @royaards a tal proposito ho appena pubblicato questo articolo: https://ilmondoincuiviviamo.it/google-ai-overview-e-impatto-sui-creatori-di-contenuti/

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                • S sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de

                  @anneviv @royaards to be fair, in the end it's a chromium(Google) based browser.
                  So if you are using Vivaldi, you're still somewhat relying on big techs work.

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                  #16

                  @sinandlerd @anneviv @royaards

                  That's OK. Just don't give them any money.

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                  • levzadov@kolektiva.socialL levzadov@kolektiva.social

                    @sinandlerd @anneviv @royaards

                    That's OK. Just don't give them any money.

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                    sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de
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                    #17

                    @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards money is not really the problem. It's all about dependencies.

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                    • S sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de

                      @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards money is not really the problem. It's all about dependencies.

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                      #18

                      @sinandlerd @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards There is always some sort of "So if you are using XY, you're still somewhat relying on big techs work." Even if you got only opensource Software, there's still Hardware ...)

                      But please, let people take one step at a time! It's a process, not a sprint.

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                      • lock@norden.socialL lock@norden.social

                        @sinandlerd @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards There is always some sort of "So if you are using XY, you're still somewhat relying on big techs work." Even if you got only opensource Software, there's still Hardware ...)

                        But please, let people take one step at a time! It's a process, not a sprint.

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                        sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de
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                        #19

                        @Lock @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards true. I am happy to see that more and more people want to get rid of big techs products and services. My intention was to show, that some alternatives that claim to be a big tech free solution just aren't.
                        There's still a lot potential left for a better product/solution. 😉

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                        • S sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de

                          @Lock @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards true. I am happy to see that more and more people want to get rid of big techs products and services. My intention was to show, that some alternatives that claim to be a big tech free solution just aren't.
                          There's still a lot potential left for a better product/solution. 😉

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                          #20

                          @sinandlerd @LevZadov @anneviv @royaards you're right, it is just important to focus on the way of thinking, not in a specific product. I just think, that people need at least something to hold in to. If the direct answer to "chromium is Vetter than chrome" is "chrome is Bad, too", it gets hard for people are just starting their journey.

                          Sadly, big tech is nearly everywhere 🤷

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                          • kenjen@pdx.socialK kenjen@pdx.social

                            @royaards
                            Looks like the EU just needs more bicycles!

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                            #21

                            @kenjen @royaards Or just step out of the car and walk for a bit. Because, in fact, we don't have to go very far at all. We're nearly there anyway.

                            There hasn't been a better time to break free. We've got more viable alternatives than we've had in the last twenty or so years. Just start using them

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                            • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                              European autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

                              #Europe #USA #BigTech #autonomy #independence

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                              #22

                              @royaards I like to imagine solarpunks/etc picknicking with their bikes just in the top left outside of the frame. 😉

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                              • S sinandlerd@social.tchncs.de

                                @anneviv @royaards to be fair, in the end it's a chromium(Google) based browser.
                                So if you are using Vivaldi, you're still somewhat relying on big techs work.

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                                #23

                                @sinandlerd
                                Ah by that standard nearly all the world is using Linux phones.

                                Vivaldi uses the oss base of Chrome.

                                Personally I think people are still missing the point, there is a reason why the browser market is as restricted as it is: DRM.

                                In practice Microsoft, Apple & Google effectively control who is allowed to publish a mass market compatible browser, by granting or not a DRM module licence (they just need to delay it).
                                @anneviv @royaards

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