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I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

    @ij you can’t really use data center stuff for personal computing (except maybe for some turbo-nerds); and it will take a while for production of parts to ramp up again

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    #26

    @thomasfuchs Hey! I'm a turbo nerd! 😉

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

      https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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      #27

      @thomasfuchs Agreed that it will get bad. But the issue won't be that we can't afford to upgrade our computers or buy new ones. The tech industry will simply stop manufacturing hardware that gives us any computing autonomy.

      We'll be presented with 'thin-clients' in various forms and we'll use them however big tech decides we should.

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

        https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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        #28

        @thomasfuchs the free market will regulate itself, right?!

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        • thijs@ieji.deT thijs@ieji.de

          @thomasfuchs the free market will regulate itself, right?!

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          #29

          @thijs lol

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          • joshmurray@mastodon.socialJ joshmurray@mastodon.social

            @thomasfuchs Why would one ever need more than 112MB RAM? 😜

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            #30

            @JoshMurray @thomasfuchs Transmeta Crusoe! Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time... a _long_ time.

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

              https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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              #31

              @thomasfuchs yeah well...
              The end game here is to force people into the cloud for everything. And then crank up prices when there's no more PC on the market suitable to do things offline.

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                #32

                @thomasfuchs If only we knew where a huge cache of memory chips, conveniently gathered into one location that is extremely poorly guarded and designed to be unmanned, happened to be...

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                • gordoooo_z@hachyderm.ioG gordoooo_z@hachyderm.io

                  @thomasfuchs I just need a 32GB kit 😭

                  I had one lined up on Marketplace for $75, but was waiting for a deposit and lost it. Then everything immediately went to shit and RAM shot up everywhere.

                  Probably gonna have to bite the bullet and spend $150 or $200 before prices go even stupider (for all I know, they already have).

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                  #33

                  @gordoooo_z @thomasfuchs
                  The prices seems to have stabilized at stores in the last 2 months for the DDR5 kits that I have looked at. Still it is very expensive and I have delayed my planned upgrade until the prices drops or I'm noticing performance loss of my current PC.

                  200$ for a 32GB kit DDR5 is cheap compared with the prices in my country, here the prices are twice as expensive.

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                    https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                    #34

                    @thomasfuchs

                    Story time! In September I got a mail from the IT center at my job that my laptop will be replaced. So I ordered a new with high spec and received it in beginning in December which is slower than usually. The laptop works well for me but in the end of January I received a mail that the motherboard could be impacted with bad connection for the charger and the charger could stop working at any time. So the motherboard should be replaced. Unfortunately no motherboards are available.

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                      https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                      #35

                      @thomasfuchs oddly enough, memory can work for decades and I learned to do math in school… in my head! I know!

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                        #36

                        @thomasfuchs I'm more afraid of the cascading effect that could make suppliers go bankrupt and stuck with hardware unusable in consumer electronics. So next 3-5 years may be optimistic.

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                          https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                          #37

                          @thomasfuchs
                          It continues to frustrate me that reporting always seems to say "data center" without distinction. I've worked in data centers for decades and, not only are those centers not the problem, most of the companies in them are heavily affected by the problem. Without data centers the internet doesn't exist. Access to components is becoming an issue for the traditional data center.

                          The problem is specific to AI data centers and AI companies themselves. Those are the data centers being built at an alarming rate and are affecting many of the companies that you don't hear about that keep the internet running.

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                          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                            I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                            https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                            #38

                            @thomasfuchs interesting, but on the bright side, this might be the kick that manufacturers need to stop shoving "smart" into everything

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                            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                              I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                              https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                              #39

                              @thomasfuchs Humm, so how are end users, who are supposed to start providing an income stream for AI, supposed to buy new hardware...? 🤔

                              #AIBubble

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                              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                                https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                                #40

                                @thomasfuchs this is some insane cross between hyper capitalism and Roko’s Basilisk. This will categorically increase human misery, not diminish it.

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                                • bobkmertz@techhub.socialB bobkmertz@techhub.social

                                  @thomasfuchs
                                  It continues to frustrate me that reporting always seems to say "data center" without distinction. I've worked in data centers for decades and, not only are those centers not the problem, most of the companies in them are heavily affected by the problem. Without data centers the internet doesn't exist. Access to components is becoming an issue for the traditional data center.

                                  The problem is specific to AI data centers and AI companies themselves. Those are the data centers being built at an alarming rate and are affecting many of the companies that you don't hear about that keep the internet running.

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                                  #41

                                  @bobkmertz @thomasfuchs
                                  Indeed. There are also data centers that may be considered as niche but that host important applications like weather and climate forecasting. Those will also suffer.

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                                  • kim_harding@mastodon.scotK kim_harding@mastodon.scot

                                    @thomasfuchs Humm, so how are end users, who are supposed to start providing an income stream for AI, supposed to buy new hardware...? 🤔

                                    #AIBubble

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                                    #42

                                    @kim_harding @thomasfuchs
                                    And even if the AI bubble makes it past this hurdle, it's still highly unclear how it wouldn't tank the economy if every white collar worker gets fired.

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

                                      https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/data-centers-will-consume-70-percent-of-memory-chips-made-in-2026-supply-shortfall-will-cause-the-chip-shortage-to-spread-to-other-segments

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                                      #43

                                      @thomasfuchs impact on #STEMEd? thinking about all those #SBCs and #robots #hamradios

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