Today I’m trying the fastest Berlin - Nuits-sous-Ravières you can do, changing only in Strasbourg and Dijon
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@jon how did you proceed and did it work?
@Alrick I don’t really speak Italian. So I went to him, explained in English it was the quiet zone and pointed at the quiet zone sign (that was right next to him). He stopped the video.
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Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)
With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start
@jon even in the regular cars that's annoying. Asking them if they want to use your headphones also does the trick
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This is what I’m trying
14 min change in Strasbourg (onto a compulsory reservation TGV)
And a 24 min change in Dijon
@jon Enjoy the trip anyway.
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Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)
With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start
Why am I confident I’ll get to Nuits sous Ravières even if I miss my connection in Strasbourg?
Because I can go via Paris instead - which is staying on the train I am on
Yes, I don’t have a reservation for it. But it’s always easier to persuade a train manager to let you stay on than get on a train you’re not strictly allowed to take
And TERs I can take on Interrail anyway
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@jon Enjoy the trip anyway.
@doede_sijtsma Smooth ICE. It’s calm. It’ll be fine
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This is what I’m trying
14 min change in Strasbourg (onto a compulsory reservation TGV)
And a 24 min change in Dijon
@jon that's sounds... tight! Hope springs eternal, and fingers crossed for you
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Why am I confident I’ll get to Nuits sous Ravières even if I miss my connection in Strasbourg?
Because I can go via Paris instead - which is staying on the train I am on
Yes, I don’t have a reservation for it. But it’s always easier to persuade a train manager to let you stay on than get on a train you’re not strictly allowed to take
And TERs I can take on Interrail anyway
@jon does that (possibly sometimes) involve buying a second reservation?
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@jon does that (possibly sometimes) involve buying a second reservation?
@ajinkyapdahale Complex. It’s a grey area. A train manager *could* demand it, theoretically. But given I’d only need it if the train were late (the company’s fault not mine) they’d seldom make that demand.
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Why am I confident I’ll get to Nuits sous Ravières even if I miss my connection in Strasbourg?
Because I can go via Paris instead - which is staying on the train I am on
Yes, I don’t have a reservation for it. But it’s always easier to persuade a train manager to let you stay on than get on a train you’re not strictly allowed to take
And TERs I can take on Interrail anyway
This an interesting case
I can re-route via Paris personally as I’m on Interrail
Were I NOT on Interrail I‘d have to rely on AJC that requires *the same route* as original tickets
But that’d mean compulsory reservation trains that might be full, hence cannot be taken…
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@ajinkyapdahale Complex. It’s a grey area. A train manager *could* demand it, theoretically. But given I’d only need it if the train were late (the company’s fault not mine) they’d seldom make that demand.
@jon I see. Would it have made sense to book a reservation until Paris in the first place, assuming the price is the same? Or perhaps you must have made the reservation over the whole "connection", not just the one train.
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Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)
With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start
@jon I can remember a Situation where two older couples (around 60) were partying in the quiet area. Somebody was complaining about them. They asked me: "That wasn't to loud?" My answer was, that they were too loud.
I know that their question implied that I simply agree with them, they tried to get an opinion from someone who just agrees with them-but not with me. I hate loud environment- I use to work in trains.
So it is a good thing to set limits at the beginning. -
@jon I see. Would it have made sense to book a reservation until Paris in the first place, assuming the price is the same? Or perhaps you must have made the reservation over the whole "connection", not just the one train.
@ajinkyapdahale Hmm, also tricky. I then leave a seat empty Paris-Strasbourg if the train does run on time! So I’m reluctant to do that. But there’s nothing to stop me doing that on Interrail indeed - Berlin-Strasbourg and Berlin-Paris seat reservations are the same price.
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Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)
With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start
@jon For an Italian this was probably silent
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This is what I’m trying
14 min change in Strasbourg (onto a compulsory reservation TGV)
And a 24 min change in Dijon
@jon my first instinct as somebody who had a student card in the 90s in the Netherlands would be to find a quicker connection
All that time spent waiting at stations is inefficientWe were so spoiled
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@jon I can remember a Situation where two older couples (around 60) were partying in the quiet area. Somebody was complaining about them. They asked me: "That wasn't to loud?" My answer was, that they were too loud.
I know that their question implied that I simply agree with them, they tried to get an opinion from someone who just agrees with them-but not with me. I hate loud environment- I use to work in trains.
So it is a good thing to set limits at the beginning.@andreS Exactly. And I’m the best person to set these limits - I’m a tall decisive multi lingual man and hence least likely to get ignored (I can put my privilege to good use)
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This an interesting case
I can re-route via Paris personally as I’m on Interrail
Were I NOT on Interrail I‘d have to rely on AJC that requires *the same route* as original tickets
But that’d mean compulsory reservation trains that might be full, hence cannot be taken…
Siemens builds good trains
(Sure they’re not always perfect, but they’re never dreadful. Siemens would never build a Régiolis.)
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Why am I confident I’ll get to Nuits sous Ravières even if I miss my connection in Strasbourg?
Because I can go via Paris instead - which is staying on the train I am on
Yes, I don’t have a reservation for it. But it’s always easier to persuade a train manager to let you stay on than get on a train you’re not strictly allowed to take
And TERs I can take on Interrail anyway
Do you know the delay-statistics for this ICE?
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Do you know the delay-statistics for this ICE?
@knud yeah. Not good! https://www.zugfinder.net/en/train-ICE_9590
But I don’t have much to lose trying it
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@ajinkyapdahale Hmm, also tricky. I then leave a seat empty Paris-Strasbourg if the train does run on time! So I’m reluctant to do that. But there’s nothing to stop me doing that on Interrail indeed - Berlin-Strasbourg and Berlin-Paris seat reservations are the same price.
@jon It would feel bad indeed, but a better insurance against noncooperative conductors.
Also, it would replace a possible berlin-strassbourg + strassbourg-dijon reservation. I wasn't able to get a "seat only" quote on the DB app for this route, but for some other routes the reservation was 5.50€ regardless of whether it's one train or 3.
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@jon It would feel bad indeed, but a better insurance against noncooperative conductors.
Also, it would replace a possible berlin-strassbourg + strassbourg-dijon reservation. I wasn't able to get a "seat only" quote on the DB app for this route, but for some other routes the reservation was 5.50€ regardless of whether it's one train or 3.
@ajinkyapdahale Even getting prices for Interrail seat reservations is a pain. I have Berlin-Strasbourg with DB Passzuschlag and Strasbourg-Dijon TGV reservation booked with Rail Europe
