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@petergleick Do we REALLY have to point out the difference?

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  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

    Trump banner at the Justice Department.
    Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
    Hitler banner at Danzig.

    What's the difference?

    grumble209@kolektiva.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #47

    @petergleick Trump's banner is from his booking photo.

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    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

      Trump banner at the Justice Department.
      Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
      Hitler banner at Danzig.

      What's the difference?

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      #48

      @petergleick 2 of these are older than the other.

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      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

        Trump banner at the Justice Department.
        Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
        Hitler banner at Danzig.

        What's the difference?

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        shadsterling@mastodon.social
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        #49

        @petergleick I can’t believe this has been up for 5 hours and no one has commented that Trump’s is the smallest. I guess that fedi not showing all replies thing has struck again

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        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

          Trump banner at the Justice Department.
          Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
          Hitler banner at Danzig.

          What's the difference?

          mapto@qoto.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #50

          @petergleick were Hitler and Mussolini also half-witted puppets?

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          • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

            Trump banner at the Justice Department.
            Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
            Hitler banner at Danzig.

            What's the difference?

            ruprecht@noauthority.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #51

            @petergleick

            OMG so glad you asked!

            The banners of Mussolini at Fascist headquarters and Hitler at Danzig were tools of totalitarian regimes enforcing one-party rule, state terror, and the cult of the leader as infallible savior. Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Germany had no free elections after 1929 and 1933, respectively; opposition was crushed by secret police, death squads, and total media control. Their imagery signaled the end of pluralism, the merger of state and party....

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            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

              Trump banner at the Justice Department.
              Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
              Hitler banner at Danzig.

              What's the difference?

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              #52

              @petergleick

              ...and the worship of the Duce or Führer as embodiments of the nation's will.

              Trump's banner at the Justice Department, hung in February 2026 under his second term, operates in a different framework: America's constitutional republic, with separation of powers, federalism, and ongoing elections. It's a bold assertion of executive authority over a bureaucracy accused of weaponization against him—think the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane or the DOJ's pursuit of January 6 cases that....

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              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                Hitler banner at Danzig.

                What's the difference?

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                #53

                @petergleick

                ... targeted supporters while ignoring leftist violence. The slogan "make America safe again" ties to policies like mass deportations and cracking down on urban crime, not establishing a Gestapo. No concentration camps, no Enabling Act ending democracy, no oath sworn to Trump personally by all officials.

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                • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                  Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                  Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                  Hitler banner at Danzig.

                  What's the difference?

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                  #54

                  @petergleick

                  https://soarestrafalgarsquare.weebly.com/uploads/2/1/6/1/21611578/674964.jpg?465

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                  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                    Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                    Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                    Hitler banner at Danzig.

                    What's the difference?

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                    #55

                    @petergleick Well, in this one case, Mussolini's portrait is on his party's headquarters, not the (officially nonpartisan) Ministry of Justice.

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                    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                      Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                      Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                      Hitler banner at Danzig.

                      What's the difference?

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                      #56

                      @petergleick ah yes good point

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                      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                        Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                        Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                        Hitler banner at Danzig.

                        What's the difference?

                        motoamerica@defcon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #57

                        @petergleick same.

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                        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                          Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                          Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                          Hitler banner at Danzig.

                          What's the difference?

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                          luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                          #58

                          @petergleick The modern picture is in colors.

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                          • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                            Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                            Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                            Hitler banner at Danzig.

                            What's the difference?

                            urban_hermit@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #59

                            @petergleick one of these is the least original of the three, done with full knowledge of the career/life arc of the other two, yet was still done un-ironically.

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                            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                              Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                              Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                              Hitler banner at Danzig.

                              What's the difference?

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                              #60

                              @petergleick There is no difference.

                              But this is not a feature of Trump, Mussolini or Hitler as much as fascism is a feature of people!

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                              • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

                                @petergleick
                                The primary difference between someone like Trump vs someone like Hitler or Mussolini is that Hitler and Mussolini actually had some redeeming qualities. Like the fact that Hitler was a war hero in WWI whereas Trump dodged the draft. Or the fact that Hitler was a talented painter and Mussolini was a talented violinist, whereas the only thing Trump is good at is conning people.

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                                #61

                                @Phracker2Art @petergleick Hitler was a talented painter? Fact so far: The Republicans did not start a ww - yet.

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                                • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                  Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                                  Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                                  Hitler banner at Danzig.

                                  What's the difference?

                                  olliv@mastodon.worldO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #62

                                  @petergleick

                                  Trumps Banner is the most beautifull, grestest, biggest banner in historie.

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                                  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                    Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                                    Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                                    Hitler banner at Danzig.

                                    What's the difference?

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                                    #63

                                    @petergleick

                                    RE https://fediscience.org/@petergleick/116100011554390385

                                    Der Slogan
                                    "MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN"
                                    auf dem Plakat kann auch ironisch gelesen werden!

                                    #hope #detrump #makeamericasafeagain

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                                    • urban_hermit@mstdn.socialU urban_hermit@mstdn.social

                                      @petergleick one of these is the least original of the three, done with full knowledge of the career/life arc of the other two, yet was still done un-ironically.

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                                      #64

                                      @Urban_Hermit @petergleick

                                      Well, Mussolini did that ever-present SI! –thing, and Hitler had his catchy party logo, so you could arguably say they both had their own thing.

                                      Meanwhile, Trump's catch-frase is a temu-version of Thatcher's, as "make Britain great again" at least had a hook.

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                                      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                        Trump banner at the Justice Department.
                                        Mussolini banner at Fascist headquarters, Italy.
                                        Hitler banner at Danzig.

                                        What's the difference?

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                                        #65

                                        @petergleick

                                        There are many good answers, but seriously I think the difference is that Hitler and Mussolini did sets (you can see Si! and swastika several times in the picture), while Trump only had the one banner.

                                        Lazy, poor, no Feng Shui. Etc.

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                                        • shimon@kolektiva.socialS shimon@kolektiva.social

                                          @petergleick

                                          fascist frowns

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                                          #66

                                          @shimon @petergleick

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