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  • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

    @ratel @selzero I think the only one that's confused about this is you and you're trying to split hairs.

    Googling "Nuremberg defense" lists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders as first hit.

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    @grumpydad @selzero This "superior orders" line of defense only partially covers the Nazi defense. For it wasn't just about claiming one was doing as ordered. What was specific to their defense (after all, that what justifies - or not - such comparison) is that while they were the one giving the orders, they still didn't get the big picture. In other words "okay okay I've made some decisions but I was in the dark". And THAT is very specific to these trials.

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    • ratel@mastodon.socialR ratel@mastodon.social

      @grumpydad @selzero This "superior orders" line of defense only partially covers the Nazi defense. For it wasn't just about claiming one was doing as ordered. What was specific to their defense (after all, that what justifies - or not - such comparison) is that while they were the one giving the orders, they still didn't get the big picture. In other words "okay okay I've made some decisions but I was in the dark". And THAT is very specific to these trials.

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      #20

      @grumpydad @selzero The "superior orders" is no more specific to the Nurember Trials than the good ol' "It wasn't me" or "I wasn't even there" or "the bear was coming right for me". But people giving criminal orders (Göring, Hess, etc, these weren't simple cops or soldiers, they were the masters of the IIIrd Reich), and yet pleading innocent because they allegedly didn't know how criminal the final result would be - now THAT is what is most "remarquable", so to speak.

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      • ratel@mastodon.socialR ratel@mastodon.social

        @grumpydad @selzero This "superior orders" line of defense only partially covers the Nazi defense. For it wasn't just about claiming one was doing as ordered. What was specific to their defense (after all, that what justifies - or not - such comparison) is that while they were the one giving the orders, they still didn't get the big picture. In other words "okay okay I've made some decisions but I was in the dark". And THAT is very specific to these trials.

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        #21

        @ratel @selzero Still don't buy your argument. I believe you're trying to distract from what ICE is doing.

        Blocking you now.

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        • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

          ... That's what the Nazis said... 🫣

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          #22

          @selzero just following orders.

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          • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

            ... That's what the Nazis said... 🫣

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            #23

            @selzero They really ainʼt too smart.

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            • vgarzareyna@mstdn.mxV vgarzareyna@mstdn.mx

              @selzero satire is dead and I killed it

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              #24

              @vgarzareyna @selzero
              Maybe it would be clearer if you added a '🥁 ba-dum putsch!' at the end

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              • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                ... That's what the Nazis said... 🫣

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                #25

                @selzero Well, intelligence is not a criteria on the application form...

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                • indynetco@syzito.xyzI indynetco@syzito.xyz

                  @selzero JD VANCE says "Nazi" should not be used as an insult, and coincidentally, he considers indigenous people to be "not fully American". Mainstream source - https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-says-nazi-should-not-used-insult-2134222
                  #indigenous #USA #Nazi

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                  #26

                  @indynetco @selzero No it shouldn't. We should expand it to "JD is a fucking Nazi scum piece of motherfucking shit fascist who needs to die."

                  Is that better?

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                  • indynetco@syzito.xyzI indynetco@syzito.xyz

                    @selzero JD VANCE says "Nazi" should not be used as an insult, and coincidentally, he considers indigenous people to be "not fully American". Mainstream source - https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-says-nazi-should-not-used-insult-2134222
                    #indigenous #USA #Nazi

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                    #27

                    @indynetco @selzero don't question a man for his salary, a woman for her age and a "true american" for where their ancestors lived

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                    • indynetco@syzito.xyzI indynetco@syzito.xyz

                      @selzero JD VANCE says "Nazi" should not be used as an insult, and coincidentally, he considers indigenous people to be "not fully American". Mainstream source - https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-says-nazi-should-not-used-insult-2134222
                      #indigenous #USA #Nazi

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                      #28

                      @indynetco @selzero

                      "Referring to political violence he commented: "We've got to stop it, we got to condemn it and that starts unfortunately at the very top of the Democratic Party."

                      ITs never their own party, when we look at political violence, the right wing, and republicans are way more political violent then the Democrats.

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                      • ogjester@stranger.socialO ogjester@stranger.social

                        @selzero can’t a government goon squad just operate with total impunity as they systematically violate people’s rights, send people away to camps with no due process never to be heard from again, or shoot people in cold blood without being compared to nazis? GOSH

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                        #29

                        @OGjester @selzero That GOSH at the end made me re-read in the voice of Napoleon Dynamite

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                        • amro@todon.nlA amro@todon.nl

                          @vgarzareyna @selzero
                          Maybe it would be clearer if you added a '🥁 ba-dum putsch!' at the end

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                          #30

                          @amro @selzero it probably would

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                          • vgarzareyna@mstdn.mxV vgarzareyna@mstdn.mx

                            @selzero satire is dead and I killed it

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                            #31

                            @selzero with an airsoft gun...

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                            • arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.comA arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.com

                              @OGjester @selzero That GOSH at the end made me re-read in the voice of Napoleon Dynamite

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                              #32

                              @arrakeen_urbanite I’m glad someone got it!
                              @selzero

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                              • steveclough@metalhead.clubS steveclough@metalhead.club

                                @indynetco @selzero No it shouldn't. We should expand it to "JD is a fucking Nazi scum piece of motherfucking shit fascist who needs to die."

                                Is that better?

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                                #33

                                @SteveClough @selzero 😀 such editing! NYT really needs you! they absolutely do.

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                                • reddog@syzito.xyzR reddog@syzito.xyz

                                  @selzero Well, intelligence is not a criteria on the application form...

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                                  #34

                                  @Reddog @selzero in fact it's disqualifying!

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