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  • morganist@mastodon.pirateparty.beM morganist@mastodon.pirateparty.be

    @0xabad1dea @Razemix cory doctorow wrote in his anniversary blog post that disowning LLMs as a technology is similar to "neoliberal purity culture"

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    #15

    @morganist @0xabad1dea Oh, wow… 🙃 Thanks for the context.

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      refusing to use LLMs: not purity culture

      wanting to disenfranchise and dehumanize everyone who’s ever used an LLM for any reason: yes purity culture, jesus christ you’re one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

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      #16

      @0xabad1dea if yelling at idiots who legitimize slop machines is purity culture so be it i won’t stop doing it

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        #17

        @quantumsys @0xabad1dea what word should i use that’s not ableist or saneist? to call slop advocates fash wouldn’t be quite right

        and you’d need to clarify how exactly “shaming working class consumers” relates to my point

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        • zaire@fedi.absturztau.beZ zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

          @quantumsys @0xabad1dea what word should i use that’s not ableist or saneist? to call slop advocates fash wouldn’t be quite right

          and you’d need to clarify how exactly “shaming working class consumers” relates to my point

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          #18

          @quantumsys @0xabad1dea look sometimes beings are too far gone for me to bother engaging in good faith and arguing the same points over and over again when i know it won’t go anywhere. my energy for doing that is finite. so in such cases my response to [insert non-saneist word here]s doing apologism for fash is going to lack any kindness, and i think that’s quite reasonable. when i know i can’t inspire change in them, i can at least yell a little to give myself and those on my side of the discourse an affirmation.

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            #19

            @quantumsys @0xabad1dea

            OP feels like it’s implying a general claim that calling people out on using unethical tech is wrong, which is a bad and annoying albeit frequent take, might’ve misinterpreted that

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              refusing to use LLMs: not purity culture

              wanting to disenfranchise and dehumanize everyone who’s ever used an LLM for any reason: yes purity culture, jesus christ you’re one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

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              #20

              @0xabad1dea

              > one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

              I know this was intended as a bad thing but mind of want this on a t-shirt (in jest)

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              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                refusing to use LLMs: not purity culture

                wanting to disenfranchise and dehumanize everyone who’s ever used an LLM for any reason: yes purity culture, jesus christ you’re one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

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                #21

                @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange I don't dehumanize people but I wanna do a terrorism on AI datacenters. ​​

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                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                  refusing to use LLMs: not purity culture

                  wanting to disenfranchise and dehumanize everyone who’s ever used an LLM for any reason: yes purity culture, jesus christ you’re one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

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                  #22

                  100%

                  Also. There's clearly a distinction between the AI booster that uses LLM on their on volition and promotes their use and the worker that see themself forced to use them by their employers.

                  I've seen people getting insulted and shouted at when they had made it pretty clear that they were been pushed to use them by the companies they worked for and they didn't even supported their use.
                  Shouting at a worker because they are forced to use technology made to exploit them is not a good look.

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    refusing to use LLMs: not purity culture

                    wanting to disenfranchise and dehumanize everyone who’s ever used an LLM for any reason: yes purity culture, jesus christ you’re one missed coffee from doing a terrorism

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                    #23

                    @0xabad1dea i used an llm once to try to create a name for something. i ended up scrapping the thing that needed the name though. other than that, mostly to figure out how to trick them. at this point i refuse to send a single prompt to one if i can help it. (i didn't Know yet.)

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                    • morganist@mastodon.pirateparty.beM morganist@mastodon.pirateparty.be

                      @0xabad1dea @Razemix cory doctorow wrote in his anniversary blog post that disowning LLMs as a technology is similar to "neoliberal purity culture"

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                      #24

                      @morganist could you give a link?

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