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Today I’m trying the fastest Berlin - Nuits-sous-Ravières you can do, changing only in Strasbourg and Dijon

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

    But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

    I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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    Also on the Siemens builds good trains point

    Desiro ML for SNCB is horrid - because SNCB ordered a terrible interior. Desiro ML for ÖBB is fine

    Similarly a DB ICE 407 has a nicer interior but same engineering as a Eurostar e320

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @smveerman ah. The interior is crap. But that’s SNCB’s fault not Siemens’s fault. Desiro ML in Austria is fine.

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      #33

      @jon It's the default interior from Siemens, surely that should be good enough 🤷‍♀️

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @ajinkyapdahale €19 for Berlin-Strasbourg and €10 for Strasbourg-Dijon. But the cheapest regular ticket I could find for today was c. €150, so Interrail made sense

        Passzuschlag is a special search on DB’s website

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        #34

        @jon On day of, of course. My particular bookings were Oct-Nov when the new timetable opened.

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        • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

          @jon It's the default interior from Siemens, surely that should be good enough 🤷‍♀️

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          #35

          @smveerman for a S-Bahn. I don’t think even Siemens would suggest sitting in that for 3 hours!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @smveerman for a S-Bahn. I don’t think even Siemens would suggest sitting in that for 3 hours!

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            #36

            @jon It's also being used on the Mittelrheinbahn Köln - Koblenz - Mainz, and that does attract quite a lot of passengers sitting in it for more than an hour.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

              But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

              I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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              #37

              @jon I would posit that the way you do this is to just allow any route, then accept that you can minimise the disruption this causes by holding trains when needed for connections and/or having a Frankreichtakt.

              Yes, I know this would involve SNCF. Stop laughing up the back.

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              • sarahas2@mastodon.scotS sarahas2@mastodon.scot

                @jon I would posit that the way you do this is to just allow any route, then accept that you can minimise the disruption this causes by holding trains when needed for connections and/or having a Frankreichtakt.

                Yes, I know this would involve SNCF. Stop laughing up the back.

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                #38

                @SarahAS2 Right. Exactly. 😀

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                  But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                  I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                  #39

                  @jon I guess DB's "Zugbindung aufgehoben" doesn't work well with mandatory reservation.
                  For interrailers, the easy but ugly solution would be to book all the way to Paris "just in case". But that's potentially an empty seat noone else can use.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)

                    With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start 😀

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                    #40

                    @jon Omg marry me 😍

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Also on the Siemens builds good trains point

                      Desiro ML for SNCB is horrid - because SNCB ordered a terrible interior. Desiro ML for ÖBB is fine

                      Similarly a DB ICE 407 has a nicer interior but same engineering as a Eurostar e320

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                      #41

                      @jon in Zürich, I suspect the average passenger cannot distinguish the Desiro trains from the KISS ones.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @ajinkyapdahale Hmm, also tricky. I then leave a seat empty Paris-Strasbourg if the train does run on time! So I’m reluctant to do that. But there’s nothing to stop me doing that on Interrail indeed - Berlin-Strasbourg and Berlin-Paris seat reservations are the same price.

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                        #42

                        @jon @ajinkyapdahale That's the eternal problem with mandatory reservations. Once passengers have been stranded once they'll just book extra spots as an insurance if the fee is low, which leads to inefficient occupancy and more passengers blocked from traveling...

                        Similar situations arise with bicycle reservations, exacerbated by having only a handful of bicycle spots on long-distance trains. Btw, I still need to finish and publish my blog post comparing bicycle reservation systems in Europe. 🙃

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @ajinkyapdahale €19 for Berlin-Strasbourg and €10 for Strasbourg-Dijon. But the cheapest regular ticket I could find for today was c. €150, so Interrail made sense

                          Passzuschlag is a special search on DB’s website

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                          #43

                          @jon magically, now it's showing the "seats only" reservation, but with a significantly less 5.50€ price. Is this different than the reservation with the global pass?

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Also on the Siemens builds good trains point

                            Desiro ML for SNCB is horrid - because SNCB ordered a terrible interior. Desiro ML for ÖBB is fine

                            Similarly a DB ICE 407 has a nicer interior but same engineering as a Eurostar e320

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                            #44

                            @jon As ÖBB Desiro ML have many wall-windowed seats I hate them as much as I do the Belgian ones.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Also on the Siemens builds good trains point

                              Desiro ML for SNCB is horrid - because SNCB ordered a terrible interior. Desiro ML for ÖBB is fine

                              Similarly a DB ICE 407 has a nicer interior but same engineering as a Eurostar e320

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                              #45

                              @jon the bwegt bw battery Mireoa have seats matching the windows and lots of legspace. The mainline not

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                                But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                                I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                                #46

                                @jon somebody might have booked your seat from Strasbourg though 🙂

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                                • julienw@pouet.chapril.orgJ julienw@pouet.chapril.org

                                  @jon somebody might have booked your seat from Strasbourg though 🙂

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                                  #47

                                  @julienw Yes, so I go sit in the restaurant. 🤷‍♂️

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @smveerman ah. The interior is crap. But that’s SNCB’s fault not Siemens’s fault. Desiro ML in Austria is fine.

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                                    #48

                                    @jon @smveerman The bit behind the cab with the single long window instead of two shorter ones is Siemens’ fault.

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                                    • partim@social.tchncs.deP partim@social.tchncs.de

                                      @jon @smveerman The bit behind the cab with the single long window instead of two shorter ones is Siemens’ fault.

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                                      #49

                                      @partim @smveerman You are complaining at a high level 😄 @wrzlbrnft too

                                      I can live with "smooth ride" and "doors that don't clank and rattle incessantly". Maybe living in France has lowered my standards?

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Just had to tell off an Italian guy for playing a video full volume on his mobile in the Ruhebereich (Quiet Carriage)

                                        With 5 hours on this train it’s important to get the norms right at the start 😀

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                                        #50

                                        @jon Yesterday I asked someone to stop using her phone inside the theatre. She was absolutely livid after the performance, said she was trying to get her dog fed and that I should have assumed she had something important to do. She never said why she couldn't have arranged that before, or during the interval though.

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                                        • ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.socialA ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.social

                                          @jon magically, now it's showing the "seats only" reservation, but with a significantly less 5.50€ price. Is this different than the reservation with the global pass?

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                                          #51

                                          @ajinkyapdahale You need to use this search: https://int.bahn.de/en/buchung/start?KL=2&ET=PASSZUSCHLAG

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