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@jwz I would be happy if they just fixed memory leak issues and be faster than chrome
@impactology @jwz Why are you running the nightly version if you don't want any bugs in your software?
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@impactology @jwz Why are you running the nightly version if you don't want any bugs in your software?
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz I would happily pay the Foundation IFF they do those things you list. I want my browser to be my tool, not someone else's. I never mind paying for things of value. But I *won't* pay for things which victimize me to enrich someone else.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz My response in the third block:
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There is no #3. GET THE FSCK OUT OF THE LLM CESSPOOL!
"But everyone else is adopting AI..."
Oh, so I suppose if everyone else jumped off the Empire State Building, *you* would have to jump off the Empire State Building.
LLMs are the 3D movies of tech. A novelty. It *seems* cool, but in truth it's a *dead end.* Save your reputation. Save your *MONEY!* Get off the bandwagon before it sails off the cliff.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
I forgot to add: get a decent spell-check. 5/6 suggestions are just letter-salads, not words.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz The only thing I would add to that list is to provide industry leading developer tools built in to the browser that allow developers to build the most robust, performant, beautiful and standards compliant web apps.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz it's already done and detached if you look closely. speaking as someone that had their name under yours on that monstrous Makefile https://servo.org/
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz Make everything AI free Mozilla. We already have human intelligence. AI is simply regurgitating stolen human intelligence
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz
I might sound a bit underducated on this, but I also wish they could make the Gecko rendering engine more independently usable. It pisses me off that every new browser is based on Chromium. imo if we make the rendering engine more popular, it will get way more attention and people jumping in to fix issues lying around for years because of lack of staff. -
RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz Mozilla is braindead at this point.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz Amen, jwz!
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz agreed, if someone wants LLM integration in their browser - let them install it as a plugin. Or just use Comet instead. Firefox should be like the kernel, everythiing else is userspace programs
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz Gotta love their blatant lie after submitting the form:
"Mozilla is building a movement to make sure that the internet and technology prioritizes people over profit. More than 100,000 people around the world donate to the Mozilla Foundation. Will you become a donor to Mozilla today?"
I say "hard no" until they get off the AI bandwagon; I will resume my support once that happens. I still think Mozilla of old has a very important role to play, and I have a hard time seeing who should take their place on short notice. We cannot let Google own it all, and be the only grown-up in the room. -
RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
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RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975
Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:
Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.
@jwz That survey was an exercise in asking us to please please let them do the AI.
Here's my response:"Please, if management want to suck at the teet of AI and the grifting engine, spin out the browser and email clients. Let the community safeguard those. I don't even mind if you keep the names Firefox and thunderbird. But we can't afford for AI to be permanently entwined in this browser. We have forks but we need more community governance clear of the current hype in silicon valley." 1/4
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@jwz That survey was an exercise in asking us to please please let them do the AI.
Here's my response:"Please, if management want to suck at the teet of AI and the grifting engine, spin out the browser and email clients. Let the community safeguard those. I don't even mind if you keep the names Firefox and thunderbird. But we can't afford for AI to be permanently entwined in this browser. We have forks but we need more community governance clear of the current hype in silicon valley." 1/4
"You aren't listening to your community and it's giving rather predatory vibes when we know the risks of bias and the wholesale stealing of our culture to produce slop at the expense of the biosphere and the communities where AI data centres are built." 2/4
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"You aren't listening to your community and it's giving rather predatory vibes when we know the risks of bias and the wholesale stealing of our culture to produce slop at the expense of the biosphere and the communities where AI data centres are built." 2/4
@jwz "This series of questions is you trying to get the backing of the community to go for AI. Fork the browser and start a new company if that's the case. You can't of course because folks know Firefox and Thunderbird. You're stealing past work and all of this is for that sweet sweet investment dollar at a time when the crash is nearly here." 3/4
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@jwz "This series of questions is you trying to get the backing of the community to go for AI. Fork the browser and start a new company if that's the case. You can't of course because folks know Firefox and Thunderbird. You're stealing past work and all of this is for that sweet sweet investment dollar at a time when the crash is nearly here." 3/4
@jwz "We don't give you our permission.
Take our no to AI as an answer.
Here's my further thoughts in a blog post.
You may not read it, but I know others will.
https://dotart.blog/cobbles/ai-and-that-guy-at-the-bar"
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