If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?
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@cdonat literally zero people use that. Anything which requires installing yet another app is a non-starter.
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@Edent Wouldn't trust any of this without proper 2FA, sadly added friction for security would probably also decrease commitment.
@koen_hufkens 2FA where? On Mastodon or your payment provider or somewhere else?
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@koen_hufkens 2FA where? On Mastodon or your payment provider or somewhere else?
@Edent Payment provider.
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@Edent might be desirable to some, but this would be the first part of the Mastodon UI I would have to use uBlock to hide. To me, emblematic of the constant depressing drive to monetise everything.
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@Edent Rather than changing Mastodon, a solution might be to add a link in your webfinger data.
"rel = https://sometipservice.com?id=foo@bar.com", then compatible clients can add the button.@tobyjaffey do you know of any payment providers which offer a link like that?
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What if Mastodon had this button?
(I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)
@Edent
This would be so awesome! -
If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?
(Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)
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@maexchen1 why?
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@Edent Ko-Fi or Liberapay would be my go-to! I particularly appreciate Liberapay for being very nice and simple
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@Edent Payment provider.
@Edent This being said, I like the idea. I had a coffee tip jar on some of my github projects - but it never amounted to much. I think I scored a literal coffee with it. And these tip jars are also a hellhole tax wise.
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What if Mastodon had this button?
(I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)
@Edent I'd be afraid that it would sharpen incentives to steal posts, impersonate, steal accounts, and maybe write divisive things.
I'm somewhat hopeful that some limits (rate-, account age-, ...-dependent most likely) on part of both involved instances could curb the post stealing and impersonation problems.
Can you think of a way to meaningfully experiment with that in a way that doesn't need to involve the potential-tipper's instance, only potential-tippee's? -
If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?
(Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)
@Edent If I'm going to make small tips online, needs to be something that takes credit card as I have a credit card that offers no fee overseas transactions but international bank transfers have huge fees and depending on the type of account paypal can too
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@Edent Maybeee, for people producing art, videos, etc and using Mastodon to promote, though in that case there are existing payment options available (Patreon, etc). Not sure it needs to be built in here too.
I actually think a one-off donation method would be nice. Sometimes the monthly defaults for Patreon and the like puts off people, especially in this time of cost of living crises.
Lots of things I'd love to donate to but I can't do subscriptions ATM because I forget about them.
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@tobyjaffey do you know of any payment providers which offer a link like that?
@Edent Nope, just an idea
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What if Mastodon had this button?
(I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)
@Edent would be really interesting
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What if Mastodon had this button?
(I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)
@Edent To spin it even a bit further/weirder?. Could tipping/subscriptions be a federated service itself? You set a limit on your account and can reach anyone that has it enabled. As a bonus you get to decide whether to tip public on a specific post or to the recipient or as DM.
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What if Mastodon had this button?
(I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)
@Edent I'm afraid integrating something like this into the platform would lead to perverse incentives like monetization, bots, bait posting, influencer culture and a lot of the capitalist nonsense that has destroyed mainstream social media.
I think it's fine to ask for tips or donations or aid in a post but where the actual platform is concerned we need to remember the medium is the message. We don't want the message of Mastodon to be "every post can make you money."
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@cdonat literally zero people use that. Anything which requires installing yet another app is a non-starter.
If everyone never uses something new, we're stuck for ever with the old ways.
Many people would consider crypto, or PayPal non starters.
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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?
(Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)
@Edent I have unsubscribed from many US digital services including Patreon which I used to support open source projects and am in the market for a European alternative. Stripe may be an option.
I would prefer to see Fediverse clients adopt Signal's approach of flagging supporters w a badge. Might be a handy filter sometimes. As in, show me posts from contributors only.
