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  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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    #4

    @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

    I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

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    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      Two things:
      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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      #5

      @Ashedryden Guess its time to spin up a mumble service!

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      • alsweigart@mastodon.socialA alsweigart@mastodon.social

        @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

        I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

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        #6

        @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

          You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

          annika@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @Ashedryden TIL there was already an update to the "nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon. 11 years since the revision and it's still getting worse https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/irl-on-the-internet-no-one-knows-youre-doggo/

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          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

            koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

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            • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

              @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

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              #9

              @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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                #10

                @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

                https://gamerant.com/death-stranding-photo-mode-bypass-age-verification/

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                • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                  @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

                  https://gamerant.com/death-stranding-photo-mode-bypass-age-verification/

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                  #11

                  @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    Two things:
                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                    #12

                    @Ashedryden dammit.

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                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                      #13

                      @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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                      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                        #14

                        @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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                        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                          #15

                          @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                          Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                          Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                            netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                            • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

                              @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                              #17

                              @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                #18

                                @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                                I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                                Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                                • fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social

                                  @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                                  #19

                                  @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                                  It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                                  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    Two things:
                                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                    #20

                                    @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                    This is just another straw on the camels back.

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                                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                      #21

                                      @Ashedryden Goodbye discord.

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                                      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                        #22

                                        @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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                                        • flashmobofone@mastodon.artF flashmobofone@mastodon.art

                                          @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                                          Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                                          Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                                          #23

                                          @FlashMobOfOne @Ashedryden This is a fatalist outlook. ICE’s current efforts to obtain advertisers’ data for their witch hunt shows that the scope of the data you give to each individual platform is extremely relevant.

                                          Secondly, if regulation is necessary, it should be towards corporations’ actions, not users exposing additional data to a growing list of platforms with poor security track history.

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