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The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

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  • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

    The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

    Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

    A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

    A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

    alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    alienghic@timeloop.cafe
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    #18

    @jeneralist

    $&#&@% death cult enagelical Christians and their crazed belief that god micromanages who gets infected

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    • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

      The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

      Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

      A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

      A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

      stekopf@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      stekopf@mstdn.social
      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
      #19

      @jeneralist

      »In August of 2025, following the successful completion of the Phase 3 efficacy trial in which mRNA-1010 met all pre-specified primary endpoints, Moderna held a pre-submission meeting with CBER [Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research]. CBER requested that supportive analyses be included … Moderna provided the additional analyses … At no time in the pre-submission written feedback or meeting did CBER indicate that it would refuse to review the file.«

      https://feeds.issuerdirect.com/news-release.html?newsid=7346090610333866&symbol=MRNA

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      • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

        The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

        Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

        A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

        A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

        scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        scaletheory@mastodon.social
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        #20

        @jeneralist

        Oligarchy = Devolution, regression, deregulation, subversion = revolution

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        • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

          The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

          Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

          A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

          A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

          hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
          hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
          hellomiakoda@pdx.social
          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
          #21

          @jeneralist I live in a first world shithole

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          • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

            @ujay68

            I'm not the right person to be explaining the perverse intersection of healthcare and capitalism. The short answer is, most large companies won't do anything that loses money. In fact, in US law they are specifically prohibited from doing things that are expected to lose money.

            ariaflame@masto.aiA This user is from outside of this forum
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            ariaflame@masto.ai
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            #22

            @jeneralist @ujay68 If they have shareholders anyway. I think non-profits and closely held (I think that's the term) don't have that restriction. But I don't think that applies to any pharmaceutical company.

            jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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            • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

              The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

              Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

              A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

              A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

              sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              sassinake@mastodon.social
              schrieb zuletzt editiert von
              #23

              @jeneralist

              I mean... rich people will still get them.

              regordane@mastodon.me.ukR 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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              • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

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                ansiblegames@mastodon.social
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                #24

                @jeneralist here is a (brief) source on Reuters for anyone looking https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/moderna-curbing-investments-vaccine-trials-due-us-backlash-ceo-tells-bloomberg-2026-01-22/

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                • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                  The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                  Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                  A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                  A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                  fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.social
                  schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                  #25

                  @jeneralist

                  If there's one thing that can be said about the current US administration is that it's airing out all the dirty laundry of the world.

                  The fact that a pharmaceutical company puts profit over human lives is an abomination. The fact that one single country can hold the rest of us hostages because they allowed themselves to be scammed rather than have universal healthcare is an abomination.

                  If they ever get out of this, I hope Americans fix their stuff.

                  crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                  • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                    The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                    Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                    A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                    A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                    gracicot@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    gracicot@mastodon.social
                    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                    #26

                    @jeneralist that keeps people in doctor's office and hospitals. Good for the friends of the administration.

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                    • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                      The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                      Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                      A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                      A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                      jcutting@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jcutting@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jcutting@mastodon.social
                      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                      #27

                      @jeneralist
                      Squandering what is probably the most important medical breakthrough of my lifetime because the most unqualified, narcissistic sociopaths somehow got elected because they were the right sort of bigots.
                      It's so tragic. It's like reading about the collapse of the Roman or Mongol empires due to easily avoidable systematic issues except we're living it.

                      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                      • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                        The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                        Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                        A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                        A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                        spirit@cybernetic.monsterS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        spirit@cybernetic.monster
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                        #28

                        @jeneralist They want to depopulate the US. This is just another policy tool to achieve that goal.

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                        • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                          @jeneralist @ujay68 If they have shareholders anyway. I think non-profits and closely held (I think that's the term) don't have that restriction. But I don't think that applies to any pharmaceutical company.

                          jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jeneralist@med-mastodon.com
                          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                          #29

                          @ariaflame @ujay68

                          Moderna has shareholders. It's on the NASDAQ, stock symbol MRNA.

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                          • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                            The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                            Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                            A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                            A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                            humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world
                            schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                            #30

                            @jeneralist A junkie that snorts cocaine off toilet seats is behind this

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                            • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                              The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                              Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                              A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                              A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                              helle@tacobelllabs.netH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              helle@tacobelllabs.net
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                              #31

                              @jeneralist even without MS, EBV is itself such a mess, had it as an adult and I have had my long term health so significantly affected by it

                              it is such a mess that the USA is handling this badly as a country and that commercial interests are also involved instead of just the good of everyone on the planet 😕

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                              • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                                The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                                Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                                A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                                A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                                geonz@mathstodon.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                geonz@mathstodon.xyz
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                                #32

                                @jeneralist
                                I wonder if a state or two could step in. Pritzker????

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                                • frieke72@mastodon.socialF frieke72@mastodon.social

                                  @Mikal This!
                                  Like so many other science or tech stuff going on in usa... Let's profit of it's stupidity to expand European knowledge/market!

                                  @jeneralist

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                                  goedelchen@mastodontech.de
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                                  #33

                                  @Frieke72 @Mikal @jeneralist BioNTech (the German company that developed the mRNA Covid19 vaccine distributed by Pfizer) is developing vaccines against HSV, Mpox, HIV...

                                  One competitor less, now.

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                                  • jcutting@mastodon.socialJ jcutting@mastodon.social

                                    @jeneralist
                                    Squandering what is probably the most important medical breakthrough of my lifetime because the most unqualified, narcissistic sociopaths somehow got elected because they were the right sort of bigots.
                                    It's so tragic. It's like reading about the collapse of the Roman or Mongol empires due to easily avoidable systematic issues except we're living it.

                                    crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                                    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                    #34

                                    @jcutting @jeneralist Feels to me more like the crisis of the roman republic than the fall of the empire that replaced it.

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                                    • fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.socialF fruitcakesareyum@mastodon.social

                                      @jeneralist

                                      If there's one thing that can be said about the current US administration is that it's airing out all the dirty laundry of the world.

                                      The fact that a pharmaceutical company puts profit over human lives is an abomination. The fact that one single country can hold the rest of us hostages because they allowed themselves to be scammed rather than have universal healthcare is an abomination.

                                      If they ever get out of this, I hope Americans fix their stuff.

                                      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                                      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                      #35

                                      @fruitcakesareyum @jeneralist We won't. We're being held hostage by Texas.

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                                      • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                                        The FDA decided not to even review Moderna's mRNA flu vaccines for approval, even though the studies the FDA would be reviewing were conducted the way the FDA told Moderna to do them.

                                        Now #Moderna expects that none of its other #mRNA #vaccines will be reviewed, and has halted studies on vaccines for EBV, HSV, and shingles.

                                        A lot of people with herpes would be angry if they found out.

                                        A lot of people who have family members with #MS -- now thought to be caused in part by EBV -- will be livid.

                                        dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        dalias@hachyderm.io
                                        schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                        #36

                                        @jeneralist So frustratingly corrupt that they halt studies rather than going to court or abroad.

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                                        • jeneralist@med-mastodon.comJ jeneralist@med-mastodon.com

                                          @ujay68

                                          I'm not the right person to be explaining the perverse intersection of healthcare and capitalism. The short answer is, most large companies won't do anything that loses money. In fact, in US law they are specifically prohibited from doing things that are expected to lose money.

                                          ujay68@mastodon.worldU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          ujay68@mastodon.world
                                          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                          #37

                                          @jeneralist Understandable. However, it doesn’t seem impossible to me to produce, at a profit, vaccines for the world’s population minus the US population. Not a really negligible target group. I’m no industry specialist, but there might also be … let’s say … other factors behind such a decision?

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