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I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

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  • jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ jgivoni@mastodon.social

    @randahl 👍
    It stuns me however that it had to come to this, before sentiment flipped, when there's been so many previous examples of the same kind of disrespect.

    To be fair, it's not so much the US as a whole (the majority do not agree with the administration), but Trump and his fascist pack.

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    #22

    @jgivoni @randahl American here. Please don't be too quick to let Americans as a whole off the hook. There are a lot of people who give lip service to opposition to the administration who have not sacrificed a blessed thing, but sat on a sofa looking at Facebook, and now the chaos they have allowed without opposition at home is spilling onto the world. Americans have not fought and now they want everyone else to fight.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

      💔

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      #23

      @randahl
      Maybe a third of them get it, another third think this is what they want because they are in a cult. They don't get that it ends with them drinking purple Kool-aide for their leader.

      The final third are in some ways most deplorable - they may get it they don' t care as long as they can afford gas and Combo Meals at the drive through.

      This is what 50+ years of underfunding education does.

      Peace.

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      • rii_cck@mas.toR rii_cck@mas.to

        @randahl And it's not just Denmark. The US can fuck off until the Trump regime is behind bars. Then we can talk again.

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        #24

        @Rii_cck @randahl as a USian I endorse this message.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

          No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

          I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

          The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

          It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

          💔

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          #25

          @randahl

          I think the rest of the world is very aware of US Imperialsm, and mostly we are thinking, who's next?

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          • tarnport@mastodon.greenT tarnport@mastodon.green

            @jgivoni @randahl American here. Please don't be too quick to let Americans as a whole off the hook. There are a lot of people who give lip service to opposition to the administration who have not sacrificed a blessed thing, but sat on a sofa looking at Facebook, and now the chaos they have allowed without opposition at home is spilling onto the world. Americans have not fought and now they want everyone else to fight.

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            #26

            @Tarnport @randahl Sure, not letting anyone of the hook 😃

            There are plenty of people to blame both here and there, but I prefer to point to the root actor which is Trump, as it is.
            Not sure how productive use of time it is to fight between ourselves.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

              No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

              I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

              The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

              It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

              💔

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              #27

              @randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

              I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

              NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

              But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

              Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

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              • jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ jgivoni@mastodon.social

                @Tarnport @randahl Sure, not letting anyone of the hook 😃

                There are plenty of people to blame both here and there, but I prefer to point to the root actor which is Trump, as it is.
                Not sure how productive use of time it is to fight between ourselves.

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                #28

                @jgivoni @randahl I'm not disagreeing. And we should not refuse community to anyone who is ready to help push back the evil.

                What I am saying however might not sit so well with you: Trump is a symptom, not a cause. That's my opinion as someone who watched it happen over 28 years, from the first time I sat up and said, "omg - oh no." Trump's way was paved.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                  No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                  I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                  The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                  It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                  💔

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                  #29

                  @randahl
                  My take is that Tiels / Musks accelerationist agenda which Vance and Trump are merely executing, will be far more harmful than hitler..

                  Hitler "only" wanted to kill jews, darks, gays and cripples. Accelerationism wants the same plus everyone else who isn't a billionaire. It seeks a world of absolute societal separation: either abject poverty because you're sub human, or the few who own all that exists to own.

                  Public seriousness is nowhere near where it should be. They've gamed us.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                    💔

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                    #30

                    @randahl It should not be forgotten. It is a lesson, a sad one. And no, I don't think the vast majority of US Americans know or understand what happened. Perhaps because they're busy trying not to get shot or arrested by the gov't they elected.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                      💔

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                      #31

                      @randahl

                      It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

                      Mass executions.

                      Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

                      So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

                      It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                        💔

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                        #32

                        @randahl and it just gets worse.
                        In Australia we wake up every morning wondering what stupidity has erupted from the mouth of that poisonous moron. Todays it is this:
                        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/23/frankly-appalling-uks-starmer-slams-trump-over-afghanistan-comments

                        The parallels with Hitler are clear. The world must unite against that manipulative, malevolent, ignorant narcissist. Your views are shared by all nations that once looked at the US as a friend.
                        #worldagainsttrump

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                        • jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ jgivoni@mastodon.social

                          @randahl 👍
                          It stuns me however that it had to come to this, before sentiment flipped, when there's been so many previous examples of the same kind of disrespect.

                          To be fair, it's not so much the US as a whole (the majority do not agree with the administration), but Trump and his fascist pack.

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                          #33

                          @jgivoni respectfully, you must accept that the rot within the US runs far deeper than "Trump and his fascist pack" from our point of view.

                          Understand that we don't hate the American PEOPLE (well, not the two thirds of them that are not fascists at least), we feel sorry for them...watching their country as they have known it disintegrate is unimaginable! But also understand this: the US has suffered a broad, systemic sociopolitical breakdown, and "voting the bums out" will not be the end of the problems, it is merely the first step in a healing process that could take many years, decades even, to fully sort out.

                          @randahl

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                            No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                            I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                            The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                            It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                            💔

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                            #34

                            @randahl the trouble is most people in America won't know or care & don't have a passport.
                            They are very insular in and care little for world news.
                            I don't know if things have changed but their news focus used to be this order;
                            My local big city
                            My State
                            Federal
                            Quirky world stories

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                            • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

                              @randahl
                              Three times, with the threat of Soviet invasion looming for decades.

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                              #35

                              @notsoloud @randahl And now that you mention it

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_at_Bornholm

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                💔

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                                #36

                                @randahl

                                I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                That is not just the case in Denmark, I can accept Americans citizens, always have done.

                                The government has been evil for too many years to count, now Europe, at least most of it, is waking up to the fact.

                                GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE
                                They are a danger to our safety not an asset.

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                                • feather1952@aus.socialF feather1952@aus.social

                                  @randahl
                                  I’m just waiting for his next brain fart, because you know it’s coming.
                                  General Bone Spurs is consistent with his idiocy if nothing else.

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                                  #37

                                  @feather1952 @randahl he has two now: his board of peas [sorry] and the lack of gratitude by Canada. But yes, the next one is in the making: he will never be satisfied.

                                  The leech has two daughters:
                                  “Give” and “Give.”
                                  Proverbs 30:15 keeps coming up in my mind...

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                    💔

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                                    #38

                                    @randahl Too right. Most of the people I currently speak to in Britain want the country to cut ties with America completely, which is so sad after Normandy and WW2 but totally understandable. American voters have been unbelievably stupid falling for Trump’s old school far right rhetoric. The lessons of history are clearly fading with a new generation, and a new world order’s arising. I have a very uneasy feeling it’ll all end in tears…

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                      💔

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                                      #39

                                      @randahl This wasn’t a misunderstanding — it was a break in trust. For decades, Denmark’s relationship with the U.S. was rooted in gratitude, shared history, and respect. When sovereignty is spoken of lightly, it reopens old wounds and turns admiration into anger.
                                      Trust between nations, like between people, depends on respect. Once that is publicly questioned, the damage doesn’t fade quickly — and it isn’t easily forgotten

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                        💔

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                                        #40

                                        @randahl

                                        Democracies in the West should work as 'universal healthcare' works. Back in the 40's Germany got sick and all chipped in to cure it from the disease. This time it's the US that needs help.
                                        New technologies allow for mutations of the virus to spread.
                                        What we really need for the long term is a vaccine.

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                                        • agt@mastodon.scotA agt@mastodon.scot

                                          @randahl Too right. Most of the people I currently speak to in Britain want the country to cut ties with America completely, which is so sad after Normandy and WW2 but totally understandable. American voters have been unbelievably stupid falling for Trump’s old school far right rhetoric. The lessons of history are clearly fading with a new generation, and a new world order’s arising. I have a very uneasy feeling it’ll all end in tears…

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                                          #41

                                          @AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

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