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You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

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  • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

    You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

    I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

    (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

    #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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    #8

    @ottaross Shouldn't need to do this.

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    • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

      @nepi Certainly developers working search have a tough hill to climb to develop algorithms to reliably detect AI slop sites, and down-grade them.

      But DDG being poor in their search results and Google being way ahead? Not seeing that at all.

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      #9

      @ottaross Maybe it depends on what you’re searching, and this is all anecdotal of course. But I can’t count how many times over the past year I’ve typed something into DDG basically knowing what I’m looking for (checking my knowledge) and been met with a wall of obvious slop from generically named websites. Google will also surface things like Reddit or forums where, especially if you have a problem, people are actually discussing that problem and a solution to it. No such luck on DDG.

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      • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

        You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

        I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

        (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

        #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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        #10

        @ottaross I like the search engines @Qwant and @ecosia (they're based on Bing, but privacy focused and developing their own index in collaboration)

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        • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

          You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

          I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

          (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

          #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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          #11

          @ottaross #DuckDuckgo is owned by a privately owned US-company, thereby not subject to GDPR-privacy standards.

          It's much better now to switch to the European qwant.com, without AI with this direct link: https://www.qwant.com/?&llm=0

          #DigitalRights #democracy #USImperialism #qwant #deGoogle #TechForGood #EU
          PS: here a list of EU-software alternatives, with my own experiences: https://mastodon.social/@TheStefan/114259071639384095

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          • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

            You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

            I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

            (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

            #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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            #12

            @ottaross Well shit

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            • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

              You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

              I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

              (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

              #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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              #13

              @ottaross wow i don't know about this feature, thanks

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              • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                #14

                @ottaross I set my DDG preferences to be no AI so I'm pretty sure that's what I get in the OG version.

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                • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                  You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                  I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                  (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                  #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                  #15

                  @ottaross@mastodon.social I think this is a step in the right direction. There is some demand for AI products that promise more privacy.

                  Assuming that DuckDuckGo is running their own LLM or even paying OpenAI or similar for the API and assuming that OpenAI or whoever acts in good-faith and doesn't save chat contents and assuming DuckDuckGo doesn't share information about you it's a nice to have feature.

                  This does however mean sharing every search query to an AI company which is concerning. Google already has your search query so adding an AI answer doesn't share your data with anyone, but for DuckDuckGo this is a transfer of personal information which is a biger issue.

                  Maybe a better alternative would for it to be opt-in and you'll be prompted at the top of your first search to "Enable AI Features" or "No, don't ask me again (you can always change in settings."

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                  • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                    @darwinwoodka Same - it's a good idea.

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                    #16

                    @ottaross Your post reminded me I've been wanting to do that. Thanks!

                    @darwinwoodka

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                    • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                      You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                      I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                      (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                      #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                      #17

                      @ottaross Looks like setting my browser to use this instead of the raw duckduck is going to be a pain in the, "gotta go scour the web for what should be obvious."

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                      • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                        You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                        I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                        (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                        #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                        #18

                        @ottaross there is also duck.ai

                        would be funny to have noai.duck.ai

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                        • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                          @ottaross I have the NO AI version set up as my preferred search engine

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                          #19

                          @darwinwoodka how did you do that?

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                          • bntn@mastodon.socialB bntn@mastodon.social

                            @darwinwoodka how did you do that?

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                            #20

                            @bntn

                            under "settings" "AI features" "disable duckai"

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                            • bntn@mastodon.socialB bntn@mastodon.social

                              @darwinwoodka how did you do that?

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                              #21

                              @darwinwoodka never mind, I see some helpful instructions in the thread.

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                              • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                                You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                                I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                                (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                                #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                                #22

                                @ottaross If you want to use a non-US search, there's:
                                https://www.qwant.com and https://www.ecosia.org/

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                                • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                                  You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                                  I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                                  (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                                  #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                                  #23

                                  @ottaross

                                  it works.

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                                  • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                                    You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                                    I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                                    (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                                    #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                                    #24
                                    @ottaross@mastodon.social
                                    But they've also created (or maybe not recently?) a website:
                                    yesai.duckduckgo.com
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                                    • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                                      You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                                      I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                                      (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                                      #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                                      #25

                                      @ottaross At this point no AI should be the default, and make the AI features opt-in.

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                                      • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                                        @ottaross I have the NO AI version set up as my preferred search engine

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                                        #26

                                        @darwinwoodka @ottaross i'm using tor as my main browser, and on tor, i use duckduckgo with no ai, and i would recommend it to everyone by default 🙂

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                                        • ottaross@mastodon.socialO ottaross@mastodon.social

                                          You prob know this already, but if you duck-search, you can go to a slightly different entry point at https://noai.duckduckgo.com to do web searches without AI slop dumping on you.

                                          I see they've dressed up the landing page there! Now more obviously non-AI. I mean, it's a selling feature, so yeah, go to town guys.

                                          (if you still google things, consider the duck search! it's worked well for me for years, and the non-ai version is a nice step forward).

                                          #InternetSearch #degoogle #websearch

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                                          #27

                                          @ottaross I just use a search engine without AI, like Startpage

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