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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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    #16

    @nixCraft
    They convinced you all that you'd be tech bros one day and have given you just enough gold to not care about the quality of your work. Unionize now. Adopt professional standards of safety and reliability. Care for the juniors and the over 50s. Programming was never a mote. It was just rare. Y'all taught the kids to code and devalued yourselves

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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      #17

      @nixCraft become an ai plumber / ai janitor / ai cleanup person and you'll be having a million job opportunities in 2027

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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        #18

        @nixCraft Some big issues with this - the savings for the company are passed onto the tax payer in unemployment and support costs. Some if not most countries cap the amount of unemployment support people can get. If you are an older employee it may be impossible to work again - outcome more investers with superyachts and higher taxes for the populous! Unemployment through AI should cost the employer 5-10 years salary in tax. Issues down the line also involve the reduction of LLM data quality

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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          #19

          @nixCraft it feels like there will be a lot of work for guaranteed-no-ai-produced code shops soon.

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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            #20

            @nixCraft

            It's wild having grown up in a time when massive amounts of effort was put into encouraging young people to become software engineers and get into computer science, and that cohort finally reaches an age where they're entering the job market or are well into a career and suddenly it's "Ehh, never mind. Sorry you built your life around this, we don't need your skills now."

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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              #21

              @nixCraft can't wait for the collapse and subsequent rebuild of new companies without the crud and hopefully without the VC and billionaires.

              At some point we collectively need to find the light right?

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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                #22

                @nixCraft 2029: Court Jester for Robots - 2030: Bio-Pet for robots

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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                  #23

                  @nixCraft maybe we shoulda done that union thing before it was too late

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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                    #24

                    @nixCraft

                    2028: ex-self-checkout supervisor, fired for 'not being attentive enough'.
                    Or maybe they will be issued guns and will be allowed to 'shoot them thieves' for <15$.

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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                      #25

                      @nixCraft yes, but also even a cashier at Costco should make a living wage and not have their job looked down upon.

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                      • christianrickert@23.socialC christianrickert@23.social

                        @nixCraft

                        Software engineering went from an expert domain (specialized solutions) to an amateur domain (anything goes) to a factory worker domain (more is more).

                        In that sense, AI slopping is just a continuation of the current "good enough if it sells" approach.

                        The people had a choice and they chose.

                        🤷‍♂️

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                        #26

                        @christianrickert @nixCraft many businesses that weren't shipping tech products were treating software as a cost centre (think banking), this has just broadened the scope of what's a cost centre

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                        • claudius@darmstadt.socialC claudius@darmstadt.social

                          @nixCraft It should be noted that AI is not the reason, but the excuse.

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                          #27

                          @claudius @nixCraft

                          Yeah just because someone likes using LLM code generators doesn't mean they like economically-driven layoffs. Odd framing.

                          Stealth recessions are going to affect the bottom line even if the stock market looks good.

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            people might joke but this is where the IT industry is headed and nobody is safe. it doesn't matter if you are good or bad, you are just another commodity. just look at how many engineering jobs were cut in the past 18 months. Oracle is now reporting it will cut 30k jobs. there is no regulation in place and by the time our politicians wake up there will be nothing left. once it was a thriving industry and now it is on the brink of collapse. the change is real whether you like it or not

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                            #28

                            @nixCraft But how are the software companies going to make money? "We launched yesterday, why do we have no customers?" "Well, another company using the same expensive AI tool used it to scan our app and recreate it, selling for cheaper."

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                            • me@h.syafiq-paradisam.my.idM me@h.syafiq-paradisam.my.id

                              @nixCraft Noo, i will graduate next two month, hope me get IT job faster

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                              #29

                              @me @nixCraft
                              Nope. Only if you can compete and win against Googlers with 10+ years of seniority.

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