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  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

    What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

    by @ourworldindata

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    #45

    This is why I always tell people to follow the data, not the headlines

    Media optimizes for clicks and emotional reactions. Reality optimizes for... reality

    The gap between what we THINK kills people and what ACTUALLY kills people explains so much about how we allocate resources, funding, and attention as a society

    Heart disease quietly takes out more people than anything on the front page, but it does not generate engagement so it stays invisible

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

      killing grandma for the orange god

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      #46

      @benroyce
      In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
      Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

      @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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      • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

        @benroyce
        In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
        Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

        @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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        #47

        @mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata 😔

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        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

          What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

          by @ourworldindata

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          #48

          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

          ...and guessing there will be very similar charts here in Europe and many other parts of the world. This problem of hyperdistorted coverage is not at all confined to America.

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          • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

            @benroyce
            In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
            Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

            @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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            #49

            I also want to pause to observe, once again, how absolutely fucking insane it was that instead of masking up, avoiding crowds, and sticking to a sanitary regime, many of these people rushed out to buy guns instead. Because in their folklore, the biggest danger wasn't a disease, but brown people coming to steal their stash of jerky and bourbon

            @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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            • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

              How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

              If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

              If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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              #50

              @Trifolium nope--you are missing the point. @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                by @ourworldindata

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                #51

                @infobeautiful @ourworldindata @franceinfo
                Peut-on avoir la même analyse en France. Media publique versus Bolloré group. #FranceInfo

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                • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS snowyca@social.vivaldi.net

                  @Trifolium nope--you are missing the point. @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                  #52

                  @SnowyCA @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                  Pray tell then what you think is the point.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                    strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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                    #53

                    @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata also a high sodium diet is a strong stroke risk, and guess what else they pump into our food?

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                    • wyatt_h_knott@vermont.masto.hostW wyatt_h_knott@vermont.masto.host

                      @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata also a high sodium diet is a strong stroke risk, and guess what else they pump into our food?

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                      #54

                      @Wyatt_H_Knott @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                      ✅

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                      • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

                        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                        How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

                        If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

                        If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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                        #55

                        @Trifolium What reason? Sensationalism? Terror and murder go on all over the world, the reporting of it is entirely political. While stroke risk, which is a HUGE problem, and is EASY to fix, gets NOTHING.

                        Stop talking and start thinking that you might be part of the problem.

                        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                        • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

                          @SnowyCA @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                          Pray tell then what you think is the point.

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                          #56

                          @Trifolium
                          The point is this:
                          There was a time when the media gave us facts not sensationalism...I'm old enough to remember those days.

                          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                            What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                            by @ourworldindata

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                            #57

                            @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Suicide goes up with newspaper coverage so Nytimes can be added to the list of causes of death.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                              strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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                              #58

                              @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata strokes are due to blood clots forming and migrating to the brain where the circulatory system becomes to small to pass them so the parts of the brain where the obstruction occurs are starved of oxygen.
                              Yes strokes occur more commonly in people with high blood pressure but not exclusively.

                              "High blood pressure is the biggest single risk factor for stroke. It plays a part in about half of all strokes."

                              https://www.stroke.org.uk/stroke/managing-risk/high-blood-pressure

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