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  • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

    @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Compliance with fascist laws is fascism.

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    #27

    @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

    Your definition may of course vary, but if age-check in itself is fascism, it becomes hard to run any community or society where people don't know a lot about each other by other means.

    (Eg. a small town pub where "everybody knows your name".)

    The question of fascism comes up when we start talking about how the age-check is made, and what other information gets shared in addition to age. Or how that age-check can be misused, even in theory.

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    • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

      @starlily @benroyce@mastodon.social it.s fully justified rage, to be honest. And "fuck you, make me" is an actual resistance strategy. Complying in advance makes the Nazi's job easy, making them take legal action against each and every single server embarrasses them

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      #28

      @fluffykittycat @starlily exactly this

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      • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

        @starlily @benroyce@mastodon.social it.s fully justified rage, to be honest. And "fuck you, make me" is an actual resistance strategy. Complying in advance makes the Nazi's job easy, making them take legal action against each and every single server embarrasses them

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        #29

        @fluffykittycat While you are correct, Ben is unreasonably unkind to anyone who crosses his path, even allies and friends.
        I am sure hes an intelligent person, but his attitude sure doesnt reflect it.
        Im pretty tired of hatred, especially from people who are supposed to be on the same side, so I muted him.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @starlily

          yes i agree with you that edgelord ego masturbation drama over what mastodon is forced to do, and blaming the wrong culprit, is stupid

          and that it is more effective to attack the government for doing this. as long as one has enough neurons to realize the fucking obvious. instead of deciding that pumping up their ego with uselessly and moronically blaming mastodon instead like an emotionally unregulated cringelord because they like taking "brave stands" for the drama points

          thank you

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          #30

          @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

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          • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

            @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

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            #31

            @benroyce @starlily It's when you don't do as you're told when asked to do something stupid. It's what a person with a conscience does when faced with authoritarian laws.

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            • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

              @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

              Your definition may of course vary, but if age-check in itself is fascism, it becomes hard to run any community or society where people don't know a lot about each other by other means.

              (Eg. a small town pub where "everybody knows your name".)

              The question of fascism comes up when we start talking about how the age-check is made, and what other information gets shared in addition to age. Or how that age-check can be misused, even in theory.

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              #32

              @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

              looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

              if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

              especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

              at the same time:

              if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

              aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

                if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

                especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

                at the same time:

                if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

                aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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                #33

                @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                  @benroyce @starlily It's when you don't do as you're told when asked to do something stupid. It's what a person with a conscience does when faced with authoritarian laws.

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                  #34

                  @ariarhythmic @starlily

                  so disobey

                  run a server

                  do not abide by id checks

                  then the govt shows up

                  now you are REALLY identified to the authorities

                  aria:

                  if you are trans (just going off the emoji in your profile), i understand why id checks are threatening to you. physically. mortally even

                  your heart is in the right place

                  but your brain is completely missing!

                  go after your government!

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @ariarhythmic @starlily

                    so disobey

                    run a server

                    do not abide by id checks

                    then the govt shows up

                    now you are REALLY identified to the authorities

                    aria:

                    if you are trans (just going off the emoji in your profile), i understand why id checks are threatening to you. physically. mortally even

                    your heart is in the right place

                    but your brain is completely missing!

                    go after your government!

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                    #35

                    @benroyce @starlily Why can't we *both* go after the governments and refuse to obey in advance?

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                    • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                      @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                      #36

                      @ariarhythmic @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                      aria:

                      go

                      run a server

                      don't comply with id checks

                      watch what happens

                      nobody is standing in your way

                      do it

                      but might i suggest you vote, organize, and agitate to fight id laws?

                      if you really cared?

                      do you think walking up to a fascist and asking to be shot is effective resistance?

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                      • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                        @benroyce @starlily Why can't we *both* go after the governments and refuse to obey in advance?

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                        #37

                        @ariarhythmic @starlily

                        because it's tactically moronic

                        you're not asking for resistance, you're demanding admins stand up and ask fascists to shoot them

                        this is not brave, this is not strong, it's fucking stupid

                        in resistance you think *strategy* and *tactics* because you want to be *effective*

                        right?

                        do you think grandstanding on social media with cringe foolish ineffective demands is anything remotely like that?

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

                          if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

                          especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

                          at the same time:

                          if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

                          aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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                          #38

                          @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          Yeah, I noticed the emoji, and I do understand they're problably really raw about the developments of the past few years. Particularly if they're in the States.

                          Opposing fascism is really healthy! I'm just concerned that jumping the gun with the GmbH leads to being ignored when sensible applications of age-checks (and what happens if you don't participate) are done.

                          This seems paramount.

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                          • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                            Yeah, I noticed the emoji, and I do understand they're problably really raw about the developments of the past few years. Particularly if they're in the States.

                            Opposing fascism is really healthy! I'm just concerned that jumping the gun with the GmbH leads to being ignored when sensible applications of age-checks (and what happens if you don't participate) are done.

                            This seems paramount.

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                            #39

                            @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                            Taking the hard-line with fascism is healthy, but pushing others to any course of action without knowing the cost to them seems non-strategic. (In this case: turning GmbH into latter-day Pirate Bay.)

                            No one battle will defeat fascism, but not fighting isn't the answer either. To push the allegory to the breaking point, we want sabotage and raiding, not cause a Verdun that will consume our future as surely as fascism will..

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                            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                              @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                              #40

                              @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                              True, but have you considered that there are more ways to oppose fascist orders than just not applying them?

                              It's often much safer and/or profitable to implement a solution that follows the letter of the order and not the spirit.

                              Particularly in a situation like this where the order of implementation doesn't come from the fascists, or even (I think it's safe to say) collaborators.

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                              • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                Yeah, I noticed the emoji, and I do understand they're problably really raw about the developments of the past few years. Particularly if they're in the States.

                                Opposing fascism is really healthy! I'm just concerned that jumping the gun with the GmbH leads to being ignored when sensible applications of age-checks (and what happens if you don't participate) are done.

                                This seems paramount.

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                                #41

                                @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox

                                i have a better idea:

                                do what valve does

                                you need a credit card

                                they run a $0 authorization

                                *no id docs needed*

                                the server doesn't deal with sensitive data

                                even better:

                                now your cc is attached to your mastodon profile

                                your cc is right there for donating to the server later

                                as more people should be doing

                                snag:

                                germany doesn't consider a cc legally acceptable

                                but other jurisdictions do

                                https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/08/steam-uk-users-will-now-need-a-credit-card-to-access-mature-content-due-to-the-online-safety-act/

                                @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox

                                  i have a better idea:

                                  do what valve does

                                  you need a credit card

                                  they run a $0 authorization

                                  *no id docs needed*

                                  the server doesn't deal with sensitive data

                                  even better:

                                  now your cc is attached to your mastodon profile

                                  your cc is right there for donating to the server later

                                  as more people should be doing

                                  snag:

                                  germany doesn't consider a cc legally acceptable

                                  but other jurisdictions do

                                  https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/08/steam-uk-users-will-now-need-a-credit-card-to-access-mature-content-due-to-the-online-safety-act/

                                  @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

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                                  #42

                                  @benroyce @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron i think they are discussing that they may have to perform verification on their own servers: mastodon.social. I don’t think they can enforce verification on other servers.

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                                  • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                    Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026. Stay tuned this week for more.

                                    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/02/connecting-the-world-through-thriving-online-communities/

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                                    #43

                                    @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Mastodon could aspire to replace X in Europe (given the current situation in the U.S. and the state of X). It is urgent that it include translation capabilities for this multilingual region

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                                    • meowki@meowstodon.euM meowki@meowstodon.eu

                                      @benroyce @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron i think they are discussing that they may have to perform verification on their own servers: mastodon.social. I don’t think they can enforce verification on other servers.

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                                      #44

                                      @meowki @benroyce @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                                      Just so.

                                      Also worth noting that some countries (at least my own) are enabling age-verification because you can't trust algorithms to show stuff people want/should see. If this is taken into account in the legistlation (which is still being written), then it wouldn't even apply to Mastodon.

                                      Similar use-cases are probably found in other EU-countries, if not in Germany?

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                                      • meowki@meowstodon.euM meowki@meowstodon.eu

                                        @benroyce @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron i think they are discussing that they may have to perform verification on their own servers: mastodon.social. I don’t think they can enforce verification on other servers.

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                                        #45

                                        @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                                        My understanding is that they will be making the software updates available to other servers that are also forced to comply or get shut down. Is my understanding wrong? It could be

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                                          My understanding is that they will be making the software updates available to other servers that are also forced to comply or get shut down. Is my understanding wrong? It could be

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                                          #46

                                          @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                          1. Mastodon's code already includes a setting which server admins can enable to set a minimum age for their server, which will ask for a date of birth to be entered during sign-up. The date of birth is not stored, only checked once. This has been part of Mastodon's code since multiple months now: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/34150

                                          2. What they say in the blog is that they will audit the GmbH's own servers, which probably includes an audit of this feature.

                                          3. The interesting stuff is what that "working group" will come up with.

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