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I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement.

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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    …Also, if memory serves me right, I have never encountered a conventionally climate sceptic person on here.

    There are lots of green growthers but I’ve never had an exchange with someone who doubts basic climate science.

    I mention this because I’m surprised that Katharine got the degree of push back on Mastodon that she graphed just over a year ago, but then I’m a man so I don’t have to put up with the many reply guys there are here

    https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/113787805278562159

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    #32

    @urlyman I am a woman scientist. Reply guys are everywhere. At least on Mastodon, it's easy to add a personal note on their profile the first time they're obnoxious, and then block them the second time. And if they really cross the line, report them to their server and they actually face consequences.

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    • hydropsyche@ecoevo.socialH hydropsyche@ecoevo.social

      @urlyman I am a woman scientist. Reply guys are everywhere. At least on Mastodon, it's easy to add a personal note on their profile the first time they're obnoxious, and then block them the second time. And if they really cross the line, report them to their server and they actually face consequences.

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      #33

      @hydropsyche I wish you didn’t have to face them, but I’m pleased the ecosystem is better at addressing them

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      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

        …There was a while in 2024 where I was frustrated that Mastodon didn’t have the breadth of politics that Twitter in its prime had, and thought that that was a bit unhealthy. I did enjoy the jostling with very different views.

        So when BlueSky opened up I thought I’d have a look. But just as there are ideas we should embrace (e.g. degrowth) but our current culture *cannot* select, people who like to be among the ‘somebodies’ don’t want to be here. It’s just not for them.

        Note that…

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        #34

        @urlyman bsky feels mostly "libertarian/status quo" to me, while masto leans more towards "socialist/anarchic" (with the pinch of salt of "it'll depend on who you follow" etc of course)

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

          But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

          I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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          #35

          @urlyman
          ✌🏾

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          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

            I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

            But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

            I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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            #36

            @urlyman That was my experience starting out on Twittler as well. Mastodon is much more to an Autistics viewpoint of the world. Interaction not worship.

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

              But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

              I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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              #37

              @urlyman Very much so. The human mind seems to gravitate far too much towards those in the spotlight, ignoring lots of great stuff in the shadows.

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              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                #38

                @urlyman

                I'm Nobody! Who are you?
                Are you - Nobody - too?
                Then there's a pair of us!
                Don't tell! they'd advertise - you know!

                --Emily Dickinson

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  @urlyman

                  Looking back over the last 10 years of social media, I do have to say that 'authoritative voices' have not really helped all that much. I have found a lot more authority and knowledge and just plain wisdom from the 'nobodies', personally.

                  I guess when people were used to a professional clique on twitter and have to find a new one, it has to be frustrating. But isn't that what something like discord is for?

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                  #39

                  @Remittancegirl @urlyman aiming to be a nobody

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                  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                    #40
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                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                      I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                      But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                      I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                      #41

                      @urlyman @ElbowsUpforDigitalSovereignty Agreed.

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                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                        I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                        But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                        I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                        #42

                        @urlyman in my field, people made the Xodus right after the election and the Bsky handles started popping up after presentations. I personally never understood the love for Twitter, it's inundated w/ bots, and now Bsky just appeals as a Twitter copy in its inevitable prenazification phase.

                        There's a lot less engagement on Mastodon, and the federation of comments is quite clunky. But it takes me back to the internet before The Algorithm, and I'd rather interact with 5 humans, than argue w bots.

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                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                          I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                          But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                          I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                          #43

                          @urlyman If there is an algorithm of any kind, it will be biased in some way. I love Mastodon because it's just chrono

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                          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                            I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                            But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                            I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                            #44
                            Is it a or a characteristic?
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                            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                              I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                              But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                              I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                              #45

                              I use open vibe and connect to Bluesky, Nostr, and Mastodon in one app. They just added Tumblr.
                              It's a good solution

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                              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                #46

                                @urlyman I was under the impression that Bluesky was also only chronological feeds?

                                I think one thing contributing the “connectivity” on Fedi is just that there are so few people here. Bluesky has somewhat hit mainstream awareness; once your platform hits millions of DAU, it’ll be hard to make yourself “stand out” in a sea of hundreds of thousands of daily posts, regardless of there being an algorithm or not.

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                                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                  I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                  But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                  I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                  #47

                                  @urlyman

                                  I go back and forth in most places, as a random unknown. I'm not a very social person but I don't have anyone to talk to offline. So I really do need social media, or I'll lose my mind.

                                  BS is absolute chaos, I never understand how to use it.

                                  But here, every time without fail I can jump into a conversation on my first day, and people reply or fav (as read receipts) my words. And I don't have to think most of them are bots, so it makes me feel seen.

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                                  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                    #48

                                    @urlyman I hop between Mastodon and Bluesky. Personally I find value in them both.

                                    There are a lot more big accounts posting on Bluesky, but I enjoy the slower paced more community-based interactions of Mastodon. I also like that Mastodon allows for a lot more nuance with larger character limits even getting into more long form posts (such as the OP which is fairly long and would have been a lengthy thread on bsky) which makes for better discussions.

                                    In my experience Bluesky is better for low-effort short posts and broadcasting from large accounts to a wider audience whereas Mastodon is better for nuanced discussions and has a more level playing field between large and small accounts.

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                                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                      I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                      But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                      I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                      #49

                                      @urlyman I was in BlueSky for a while too…. but it’s too political, and also quite discriminative of single fathers. If you have NO political opinion there, you’re a nobody, who nobody trusts. You’re considered a “red flag” if you don’t support the left. Other platforms consider you a “red flag “ if you don’t support the right.

                                      I love the Fediverse! It gives the finger to both.

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                                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                        I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                        But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                        I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                        #50

                                        @urlyman Really? That's interesting, as I'm trying out Mastodon and coming from Bluesky, I interact with people frequently there. Yet, I only have 20-something followers, none of whom know me IRL.

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                                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                          I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                          But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                          I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                          #51

                                          @urlyman používám obojí, chce to jen čas...

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