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🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90.

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  • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

    When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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    #27

    @Richard_Littler I actually went there when it was operational. Not intentionally mind you, someone else had organised the trip and I only learned what it was when I entered.
    Mostly standard themepark rides all garnished with the odd "ancient aliens" stick. You could tell they poured a lot of money into it though.

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    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

      🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
      I've had this book since I was a little kid.

      #ancientaliens

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      #28

      @Richard_Littler A total fraud but a rich, successful fraud As an ex-archaeologist I found him but annoying but fair play to him, I suppose. He certainly tapped into the zeitgeist and there are people making bank today with much less entertaining and fun theories than he opined. And he had a cool name too which helps.

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      • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

        🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
        I've had this book since I was a little kid.

        #ancientaliens

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        #29

        @Richard_Littler Same, and that's also just what my copy looks like. Tough to believe someone that well written is cray cray when you are 12 ya know?

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          @Richard_Littler For a while he was going to open another theme park, in Blackpool. (It dead-ended around 2014. I used it in one of my novels …)

          I am now imagining the consequences if he'd commissioned H. R. Giger to design the interiors.

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          #30

          @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s a Giger museum and café in Gruyères:

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            @datarama @Richard_Littler Exactly this.

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            #31

            @cstross @datarama @Richard_Littler See also Great Zimbabwe (not mentioned in the article but aliens were also postulated as the origin at one point as well; anything and anyone so long as it wasn't black people):

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe

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            • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

              @cstross @Richard_Littler Back when colonialist white supremacist racism sold well. The whole racist "ancient aliens" thing has stuck around in the decades since, but not in such profitable form I think.

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              #32

              @isaackuo @cstross @Richard_Littler Maybe not quite so profitable but Graham Hancock has still made a lot of money and been given a highish profile perpetuating the same racist pseudoscience in the past few decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

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              • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                #ancientaliens

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                #33

                @Richard_Littler
                Co-writer & editor was a literal NAZI. I didn't know that till yesterday.
                It all makes more sense now, the "Indigenous peoples can't do the clever stuff" A White Supremacist Ideology makes more sense of it,

                I read "Chariot of the Gods" in 1972 approx.
                Very plausible if you are ignorant.
                I read a good debunking maybe the next year.
                Debunked over 50 years ago and yet was on a Digital Pay TV "factual" channel in UK & Ireland.

                It was also dishonest in the presentation of facts!

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                • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                  🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
                  I've had this book since I was a little kid.

                  #ancientaliens

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                  #34

                  @Richard_Littler
                  He was the greatest con-artist of the 1970s! Everyone knew his name and the title of his book. His loony ideas prompted many discussions amongst my school chums and first awakened me to the question of why so many people just 'believe' all sorts of irrational badly argued nonsense.
                  And on a positive note, let's remember all the great cinematic and televisual art he inspired, not least of which #Stargate #StargateSG1 #SG1

                  I shall definitely miss him!

                  https://dn720002.ca.archive.org/0/items/BBCHorizonCollection512Episodes/BBC%20Horizon%20-%20s0000e01%20-%20The%20Case%20of%20the%20Ancient%20Astronauts.ogv

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                  • spacemagick@mastodon.socialS spacemagick@mastodon.social

                    @Richard_Littler
                    He was the greatest con-artist of the 1970s! Everyone knew his name and the title of his book. His loony ideas prompted many discussions amongst my school chums and first awakened me to the question of why so many people just 'believe' all sorts of irrational badly argued nonsense.
                    And on a positive note, let's remember all the great cinematic and televisual art he inspired, not least of which #Stargate #StargateSG1 #SG1

                    I shall definitely miss him!

                    https://dn720002.ca.archive.org/0/items/BBCHorizonCollection512Episodes/BBC%20Horizon%20-%20s0000e01%20-%20The%20Case%20of%20the%20Ancient%20Astronauts.ogv

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                    #35

                    @Richard_Littler
                    That link is to the 25th November 1977 edition of the (once) prestigious Horizon BBC scientific documentary series which brought much greater attention (in Britain) to von Däniken's 'ideas'.
                    Sadly, the version on archive.org has, rather irritatingly, been dubbed into American.

                    #RIP #ErichVonDäniken
                    #AIP (ascend in peace)
                    #woowoo #AncientAstronauts
                    #BBC #Horizon #documentary

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                    • noctuaminervae@toot.siN noctuaminervae@toot.si

                      @cstross @Richard_Littler There's the implied subtext. And then there's the explicit, in-your-face JAQing off, like: "Was the black race a failure and did the extraterrestrials change the genetic code by gene surgery and then programme a white or a yellow race?" (von Däniken, /Signs of the Gods/, 1980, in the chapter “Man Outsmarts Nature” – loads more where that came from)

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                      #36

                      @noctuaminervae @cstross @Richard_Littler

                      'Was the black race...'

                      Yow! Is that an exact quote? Jesus.

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                      • c_chep@piaille.frC c_chep@piaille.fr

                        @Richard_Littler oooooh, that's interesting. Any contact between that guy and Claude Vorilhon (also known as Raël)?

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                        #37

                        @c_chep @Richard_Littler
                        Probably not directly but it's inconceivable that Vorilhon's 'alien encounter' in 1973 wasn't in some way influenced by von Däniken's publication four years earlier 🙂
                        #woowoo #AncientAstronauts 👽

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                        • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                          When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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                          #38

                          @Richard_Littler
                          When the U.S. descends into full scale civil war (next week or whatever) and all its proper industries/businesses have to migrate to somewhere less idiotic, that would make a brilliant location for the new #Stargate series!

                          #StargateSG1 #SG1
                          #woowoo 🛸 👽

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                          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                            @cstross Now, that concept worked out *much* better.
                            My photos of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères...

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                            #39

                            @Richard_Littler @cstross

                            Cool but I wouldn't want to have to dust all that!

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                            • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

                              @Richard_Littler We had raves there.

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                              #40

                              @KarlHeinzHasliP @Richard_Littler
                              Wow! 👽

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                              • spacemagick@mastodon.socialS spacemagick@mastodon.social

                                @KarlHeinzHasliP @Richard_Littler
                                Wow! 👽

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                                #41

                                @spacemagick @Richard_Littler They shut it down by 2 AM though as the entire Interlaken Valley acted as an echo chamber, carrying the base for 100s of kilometers 😉

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                                • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

                                  @spacemagick @Richard_Littler They shut it down by 2 AM though as the entire Interlaken Valley acted as an echo chamber, carrying the base for 100s of kilometers 😉

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                                  #42

                                  @KarlHeinzHasliP @Richard_Littler LOL!

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                                  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                    @Richard_Littler
                                    Co-writer & editor was a literal NAZI. I didn't know that till yesterday.
                                    It all makes more sense now, the "Indigenous peoples can't do the clever stuff" A White Supremacist Ideology makes more sense of it,

                                    I read "Chariot of the Gods" in 1972 approx.
                                    Very plausible if you are ignorant.
                                    I read a good debunking maybe the next year.
                                    Debunked over 50 years ago and yet was on a Digital Pay TV "factual" channel in UK & Ireland.

                                    It was also dishonest in the presentation of facts!

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                                    #43

                                    @raymaccarthy @Richard_Littler Read him when I was young, took me much longer to see the racism inherent in his arguments. “Because white people didnt do it first it must be aliens “ seems so wrong now.

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                                    • acb@mastodon.socialA acb@mastodon.social

                                      @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s a Giger museum and café in Gruyères:

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                                      #44

                                      @acb @cstross @Richard_Littler Whoa, will visit the next time I'm flying a virtual glider out of LSGT in Flight Simulator!

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                                        #45

                                        @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s even a meme for that…

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                                        • aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA aprilfollies@mastodon.online

                                          @cstross @Richard_Littler There’s even a meme for that…

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                                          #46

                                          @aprilfollies @cstross @Richard_Littler to understand some of the problems in America right now, all you have to do is listen to any Art Bell show from the 90s and oooh boy

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