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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

    Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

    I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

    I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

    theogrin@chaosfem.twT npars01@mstdn.socialN jb@masto.hackers.townJ peter_slwk@mastodon.socialP dinandmentink@mastodon.onlineD 7 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

      theogrin@chaosfem.twT This user is from outside of this forum
      theogrin@chaosfem.twT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @Daojoan

      Perhaps my favourite 'Musk and Free Speech' moment, the one to be shared with the class, is when he sought to legally compel advertisers to buy time on his garbage fire social media app, after it transpired that advertisers don't like their ads being associated with Nazis.

      And advertising is the most banal, empty, facile form of speech, but by compelling groups to provide representation on his platform it forever showed that free speech, actually free, is not something Musk will ever support.

      Which makes his supporters trying to claim CSAM as a first amendment thing... just ring a little more hollow. (Also? Ew.)

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

        npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        npars01@mstdn.social
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        #3

        @Daojoan

        https://www.axios.com/2017/12/14/koch-tries-its-hand-at-venture-capital-1513277500

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

        https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/1/18511540/silicon-valley-foreign-money-china-saudi-arabia-cfius-firrma-geopolitics-venture-capital

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-04-24/price-alwaleed-s-elon-musk-ties-are-boosting-his-comeback-bid

        The tech industry has been handed billions of dollars from people frying the planet & who want to keep doing it.
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-06/saudis-plan-100-billion-ai-powerhouse-to-rival-uae-s-tech-hub

        $100 billion buys a lot of awful.
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

        https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/21/how-fossil-fuel-industry-funds-fascism

        https://fpif.org/the-fossil-fuel-industry-is-lining-up-behind-far-right-authoritarians/

        https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/andreas-malm-interview/

        https://www.sunrisemovement.org/movement-updates/to-win-on-climate-we-must-crush-fascism/

        It also buys a lot of murder & war too.
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

          Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

          I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

          I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

          jb@masto.hackers.townJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jb@masto.hackers.townJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jb@masto.hackers.town
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          #4

          @Daojoan

          “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people” in the post-Internet era.

          Every fucking time, we’ve had free speech rights impinged, it was “protect the chiiildren” or “what about the children” always about porn.

          But when actual harm is being done, non consensually, actual CSAM being made and passed around, fucking crickets.

          These spineless fucks.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

            Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

            I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

            I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

            peter_slwk@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            peter_slwk@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            peter_slwk@mastodon.social
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            #5

            @Daojoan In an EU where policy makers scream they want to stop CSAM and so they want backdoors on phones and scanning tools to detect what you are sending in your chats, it's good to know we can always move to Twitter / X to message eachother because there's no move whatsoever to stop this.

            Yes there has been a bit of news 5 days ago, but it remains silent now.

            They're scared of a rich man.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

              Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

              I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

              I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

              dinandmentink@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
              dinandmentink@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
              dinandmentink@mastodon.online
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              #6

              @Daojoan in the words of the ancient laconians: 'fuck these assholes' would suffice.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                lioh@social.anoxinon.deL This user is from outside of this forum
                lioh@social.anoxinon.deL This user is from outside of this forum
                lioh@social.anoxinon.de
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                #7

                @Daojoan the term Free Speech is always used by those who in the end restrict opinions they dislike.

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                • theogrin@chaosfem.twT theogrin@chaosfem.tw

                  @Daojoan

                  Perhaps my favourite 'Musk and Free Speech' moment, the one to be shared with the class, is when he sought to legally compel advertisers to buy time on his garbage fire social media app, after it transpired that advertisers don't like their ads being associated with Nazis.

                  And advertising is the most banal, empty, facile form of speech, but by compelling groups to provide representation on his platform it forever showed that free speech, actually free, is not something Musk will ever support.

                  Which makes his supporters trying to claim CSAM as a first amendment thing... just ring a little more hollow. (Also? Ew.)

                  arclight@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                  arclight@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @theogrin @Daojoan <Adjusts fedora> "It's ephebophilia, actually..."

                  Every last one of those creepy bastards can be thrown in the sea for introducing me to that word.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                    Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                    I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                    I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                    naturemc@mastodon.online
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                    #9

                    @Daojoan May I answer your eight words in only one word? Fascism.

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