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I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

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  • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    rasterweb@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

    Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

    No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

    You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

    We can build a better world.

    rasterweb@mastodon.socialR madengineering@mastodon.cloudM arclight@oldbytes.spaceA mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM catdad@ohai.socialC 9 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

      I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

      Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

      No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

      You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

      We can build a better world.

      rasterweb@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      rasterweb@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      rasterweb@mastodon.social
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      #2

      We can see that the people speaking out about ICE and data centers is having an effect. Public opinion still matters, at least as long as we have (publicly) elected officials who are (supposed to be) beholden to their constituents.

      Let those fuckers know where you stand. Make noise, say it loudly, and repeat it so they cannot ignore it.

      It’s easy to feel hopeless, but remember, we outnumber them. They cannot exist without us. We have the power… we just need to use it.

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      • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

        I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

        Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

        No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

        You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

        We can build a better world.

        madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
        madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
        madengineering@mastodon.cloud
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        #3

        @rasterweb I'd retort:

        Like it or not, marketing has failed. No one will trust or buy your products again. You might as well declare bankruptcy now.

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        • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

          I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

          Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

          No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

          You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

          We can build a better world.

          arclight@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
          arclight@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
          arclight@oldbytes.space
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          #4

          @rasterweb "Like it or not, there are bug parts in your cereal". Yes, and we work tirelessly to eliminate them. It won't ever be perfect but we wotk to make it better because NOBODY WANTS BUG PARTS IN THEIR CEREAL - WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!"

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          • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

            I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

            Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

            No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

            You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

            We can build a better world.

            mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mrundkvist@archaeo.social
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            #5

            @rasterweb
            I'm in #archaeology. We've used analytical machine learning for years before the generative apps became available. I know all the good arguments for why nobody should use generative machine learning. But the main reason that I don't is simply that it doesn't offer archaeologists anything useful. And that's *before* venture capital pulls out and ChatGPT becomes expensive.

            #aibubble #llm #ai

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            • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

              I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

              Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

              No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

              You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

              We can build a better world.

              catdad@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              catdad@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              catdad@ohai.social
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              #6

              @rasterweb Let's go forward to better.

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              • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

                Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

                No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

                You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

                We can build a better world.

                em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social
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                #7

                @rasterweb Yes indeed. I am with you 💯
                I also hear things like: comparing Ai to the introduction of the calculator and the computer, and how people who resisted learning to use it couldn’t compete with people who learned how to use it. That argument is flawed from the beginning because Ai is not an effective “tool”, and certainly not now. If we had responsible people working on it instead of “gathering data” which adds to the slop, it could start to be a “tool”. Not to mention other problems 🫩

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                • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                  I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

                  Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

                  No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

                  You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

                  We can build a better world.

                  oberstenzian@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                  oberstenzian@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                  oberstenzian@mastodon.social
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                  #8

                  @rasterweb AI, fascism, and racism are here.

                  *So are we.*

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                  • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                    I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

                    Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

                    No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

                    You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

                    We can build a better world.

                    T This user is from outside of this forum
                    T This user is from outside of this forum
                    turbulent@mastodon.social
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                    #9

                    @rasterweb I don't remember where I've read that but apparently speaking out is the single biggest contributor in preventing the spread of authoritarianism. Like it or not, people must speak out or nothing ever changes

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                    • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                      @rasterweb Yes indeed. I am with you 💯
                      I also hear things like: comparing Ai to the introduction of the calculator and the computer, and how people who resisted learning to use it couldn’t compete with people who learned how to use it. That argument is flawed from the beginning because Ai is not an effective “tool”, and certainly not now. If we had responsible people working on it instead of “gathering data” which adds to the slop, it could start to be a “tool”. Not to mention other problems 🫩

                      david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
                      david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @em_and_future_cats @rasterweb

                      And even if it were effective, that's a terrible argument.

                      I learned how to use a computer using a BBC model B. Yes, some of the things I learned there are still relevant. But I have worked with people my age who learned a decade later and have no disadvantage.

                      People who jumped on technology bandwagons later often have an easier time. They don't have to keep relearning things that rapidly change. While the technology is being deployed, they are solving real problems. Once the technology reaches a generally useful point with some stable features, they can jump on and adopt it at a much lower cost than the early adopters.

                      Look at the eCommerce boom, for example. A very small number of companies like eBay and Amazon did very well from being early adopters but a lot of the early adopters crashed and burned. In contrast, a lot of companies jumped in after the .com crash and built sustainable business models and did very well. In the UK, the supermarket that adopted online ordering earliest was Tesco (they were on Compuserve!). The two with the largest market share are Lidl and Ocado, neither of which entered that market for the first decade.

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                      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                        @em_and_future_cats @rasterweb

                        And even if it were effective, that's a terrible argument.

                        I learned how to use a computer using a BBC model B. Yes, some of the things I learned there are still relevant. But I have worked with people my age who learned a decade later and have no disadvantage.

                        People who jumped on technology bandwagons later often have an easier time. They don't have to keep relearning things that rapidly change. While the technology is being deployed, they are solving real problems. Once the technology reaches a generally useful point with some stable features, they can jump on and adopt it at a much lower cost than the early adopters.

                        Look at the eCommerce boom, for example. A very small number of companies like eBay and Amazon did very well from being early adopters but a lot of the early adopters crashed and burned. In contrast, a lot of companies jumped in after the .com crash and built sustainable business models and did very well. In the UK, the supermarket that adopted online ordering earliest was Tesco (they were on Compuserve!). The two with the largest market share are Lidl and Ocado, neither of which entered that market for the first decade.

                        em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                        em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                        em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @david_chisnall @rasterweb
                        Oh my! This is a terrific argument! I’m not very good with countering arguments because I tend to get hung up on my own “facts” and then lose momentum when someone puts a fact in front of me that I haven’t done due diligence to know much about it. (Like the one I mentioned earlier). Thank you! This is perfect to add to my arsenal of counterpoints when I meet someone saying “how wonderful Ai is, etc. etc. ” 😹

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                        • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                          I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

                          Like it or not, ableism is here… like it or not, racism is here… like it or not, fascism is here.

                          No, fuck that, I will resist. I will speak out. I will fight back.

                          You do not have to roll over and accept the shit corporations and the existing power structure try to force upon you.

                          We can build a better world.

                          mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mamalake@beige.party
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                          #12

                          @rasterweb especially here on fedi, the skills exist in it's people to build a better way.

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                          • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                            We can see that the people speaking out about ICE and data centers is having an effect. Public opinion still matters, at least as long as we have (publicly) elected officials who are (supposed to be) beholden to their constituents.

                            Let those fuckers know where you stand. Make noise, say it loudly, and repeat it so they cannot ignore it.

                            It’s easy to feel hopeless, but remember, we outnumber them. They cannot exist without us. We have the power… we just need to use it.

                            thomasjwebb@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                            thomasjwebb@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @rasterweb public opinion does actually influence how companies decide product lines, at least when the company isn't all in cultists about the technology. And they are noticing the anti-AI backlash.

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