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I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

    💔

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    #73

    @randahl Canada has gone through a similar transformation. It started with talks of annexation and 51st state rhetoric a year ago.

    Now their politicians are actively calling for the province of Alberta to break off and join the US.

    https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2026/01/23/u-s-bessent-weighs-alberta-separatism/

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    • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

      @randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

      I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

      NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

      But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

      Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

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      #74

      @msh Something like 35% of the American public have drunk the MAGA Kool-Aid, and that's enough to put the future of the country in question. Their news source is hard-right propaganda. And yes, so much damage has been done internationally that there is no going back. Domestically, I'm not sure there will be a way of going back, either, given the damage to journalism, science and universities, and to the rule of law.

      I loved Carney's speech and argument.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

        💔

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        #75

        @randahl Yup. USA used to be the de facto leader of “the Western World”, whatever that was supposed to mean and whatever you thought of it. It isn’t anymore. That’s how great MAGA made America again.

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        • eq@mas.toE eq@mas.to

          @AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

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          #76

          @eq I agree, and I never voted for Brexit. Nigel Farage ranted about immigration using the same old far right rhetoric, and many people fell for it. AI’s more of a threat to jobs and everyday life in the UK than immigration.
          I can’t believe the direction the world’s heading in. Two world wars on, and the twisted ideologies are clearly coming back. Not that they ever fully went away.

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          • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

            @jgivoni respectfully, you must accept that the rot within the US runs far deeper than "Trump and his fascist pack" from our point of view.

            Understand that we don't hate the American PEOPLE (well, not the two thirds of them that are not fascists at least), we feel sorry for them...watching their country as they have known it disintegrate is unimaginable! But also understand this: the US has suffered a broad, systemic sociopolitical breakdown, and "voting the bums out" will not be the end of the problems, it is merely the first step in a healing process that could take many years, decades even, to fully sort out.

            @randahl

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            #77

            @msh @jgivoni @randahl Might I suggest the root problem in the #UnitedStates is its failing K-12 #education system? There’s a good reason #DonaldTheDeplorable #Trump thanked the “poorly educated” after winning his first #USpol contest in the run-up to the #2016election. https://youtu.be/O9F6EAMPky4

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

              No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

              I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

              The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

              It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

              💔

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              #78

              @randahl as a Canadian, I feel the same. I grew up feeling that the US was a friendly next door neighbour-another branch of the same family. Now I feel such intense animosity, I’m not sure I could ever cross that border again.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                💔

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                #79

                @randahl Sadly, I agree with you. I'm a former British soldier. With his threats to Greenland and now his belittling of allied contributions to the conflict in Afghanistan (at the USA's request), I am absolutely disgusted and, to be honest, worried for the future. My only form of protest at the moment is to avoid all USA products - this is why I have left Facebook and joined Mastodon yesterday. Europe must be stronger.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                  No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                  I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                  The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                  It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                  💔

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                  #80

                  @randahl The same here in France, people are immensely in rage. But fortunately, those with a brain can differ between a fascist state and the good people who try to resist. And meanwhile even some Republicans don't like thes politics. I think, a strong Europe showing red lines will help the resisting people. We shouldn't forget them.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                    💔

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                    #81

                    @randahl For a lack of a better term, it is going to take a period of de-nazification to even begin mending relationships. To be clear, the American political and oligarch classes are riddled with collaborators and outright Nazis, so things will continue to escalate until they face consequences. My personal estimation is that this period will last 20-40 years especially considering that the opposition party (Democrats) are beholden to the same oligarchs who helped cause this.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                      💔

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                      #82

                      @randahl yeah, same feelings here. At least the more evolved Dutch…
                      It’s about time (long overdue actually) that our politicians got their heads out of their bottoms and do the right things.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                        💔

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                        #83

                        @randahl Nor should it be. Many idiots think we need to find a way to 'work with' Nazis who want to destroy everything. We stupidly keep giving assholes like the slime comprising America's GOP a seat at the table when they've made clear they'll devour everything and kill others to do so.

                        No one should forgive the United States. NO ONE.

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                        • galad@mastodon.socialG galad@mastodon.social

                          @randahl For a lack of a better term, it is going to take a period of de-nazification to even begin mending relationships. To be clear, the American political and oligarch classes are riddled with collaborators and outright Nazis, so things will continue to escalate until they face consequences. My personal estimation is that this period will last 20-40 years especially considering that the opposition party (Democrats) are beholden to the same oligarchs who helped cause this.

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                          #84

                          @galad @randahl This 🎯

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                          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                            @randahl The same here in France, people are immensely in rage. But fortunately, those with a brain can differ between a fascist state and the good people who try to resist. And meanwhile even some Republicans don't like thes politics. I think, a strong Europe showing red lines will help the resisting people. We shouldn't forget them.

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                            #85

                            @NatureMC @randahl thank you, there are millions of us here who hate his guts.

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                            • R rossmcc@mastodon.social

                              @randahl The venal kleptocracy behind Trump is today exerting influence around the world, Trump is but a figurehead. Until people realise that this is about regular people versus the top 0.1% and their enablers, things will not get better. In the U.K. and US, both mainstream parties have been captured by corporate and / or Zionist paymasters, which disenfranchises voters. It’s unsurprising 1/3 of people (much more actually) don’t vote.

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                              #86

                              @RossMcC @randahl Spot-on, unfortunately.

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                              • individual8@mastodon.socialI individual8@mastodon.social

                                @randahl Much like the situation in Russia, many citizens remain unaware of the profound damage their leadership is inflicting on the world – both in terms of tangible destruction and the lasting stain on global perception. These are wounds that will take decades to heal.

                                Germans, in particular, may still recall the weight of such a legacy, having faced the harsh reality of being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors.

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                                #87

                                @individual8 @randahl That's because aside from the assholes in the Fox Lies bubble, millions of others are 'distracted' with the pressure of getting by and look forward to mindless 'Dancing With The Stars' at the end of an exhausting day. Oligarchy intends to keep them that way.

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                                • justinlachance@mastodon.socialJ justinlachance@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl Canada has gone through a similar transformation. It started with talks of annexation and 51st state rhetoric a year ago.

                                  Now their politicians are actively calling for the province of Alberta to break off and join the US.

                                  https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2026/01/23/u-s-bessent-weighs-alberta-separatism/

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                                  #88

                                  @justinlachance @randahl
                                  No, Alberta doesn't want to be part of the USA.

                                  But I'm sure Minnesota would love to be Canada's 11th province.

                                  https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2026/01/23/u-s-bessent-weighs-alberta-separatism/

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                                  • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                                    @randahl We have abandoned so much for this maniac but nothing so valuable as the connections you describe. I apologize for the clumsy, chaotic threat we have become and hope we can be a part of something better in the future.

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                                    #89

                                    @Gustodon @randahl AMEN. Me too.

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                                    • mok0@mastodon.onlineM mok0@mastodon.online

                                      @randahl There are a few people in Denmark who still believe USA is our closest ally, those people are all found on Christiansborg.

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                                      #90

                                      @mok0 @randahl Then they're fucking imbeciles. Find new friends.

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                                      • eq@mas.toE eq@mas.to

                                        @AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

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                                        #91

                                        @eq @AGT Don't forget the far-right danger in Hungary, Italy, in France (before our elections) and elsewhere. And now we have not only Russian troll farms but manipulations of our elections by the USA, especially the #TESCREAL tech bros and their money they invest in our fascist parties.
                                        We can only learn from the bad example USA how quick we can lose our own democracies!

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                          No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                          I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                          The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                          It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                          💔

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                                          #92

                                          @randahl

                                          I work at a Danish company owned by a US one, working in the US. It’s been socially strained since we joined, but I dread how things will go now.

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