omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram.
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@hypostase @_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux the story is an urban legend (check Snopes), I have seen probably more than a dozen versions (differing in the name of US ship and nationality of lighthouse crew); however, with current trend in US policies, I wouldn't be at all surprised if one day it becomes reality.
@blotosmetek @hypostase @ArchiteuthisFlux Why let the truth get in the way of a good story though
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@ArchiteuthisFlux the AI knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the AI from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is.
@jomo @ArchiteuthisFlux This is the Pooh Bear theory of information systems, right?
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@hypostase @_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux the story is an urban legend (check Snopes), I have seen probably more than a dozen versions (differing in the name of US ship and nationality of lighthouse crew); however, with current trend in US policies, I wouldn't be at all surprised if one day it becomes reality.
@blotosmetek
Oh, I'm aware, just commiserating on the underlying truth. I'd almost be surprised if there wasn't a version in semaphore and sailing ships from other Empires.
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@ArchiteuthisFlux Yeah, but if their goal is to crash into the rocks, they are nailing it.
@johnnythan @ArchiteuthisFlux They're not, that's the really sad thing. This isn't at all how neural networks in living things find their ways towards goals. You can simulate that *accurately* in about 10 lines of BASIC or FORTRAN. I've done it.
This is multi level misunderstanding: of the exercise, of the goal, AND of how to achieve it.
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@ArchiteuthisFlux
"Canadian coastguard, this is the US Navy, we are on a collision course. Adjust your bearing 10 degrees south.""Nope."
"We say again, collision course, change your bearing."
"Nope."
"Canadian coastguard, we are an aircraft carrier with a support fleet of two destroyers, three cruisers, a small flotilla of support craft and a classified number of submarines. If you do not change your bearing we will take appropriate action."
"We're a lighthouse. Your call."
@_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux as much as I want this to be true..... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-obstinate-lighthouse/
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux while this is funny and it made me chuckle I have to ask why you're still validating X by visiting the place?
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It's probably just because my family's in the fishing industry that I know the secrets of the sea: for instance, boats go on the water and lighthouses go on land, and they should generally not be in the same place at the same time.
@ArchiteuthisFlux the drawing is so confusing to me because if it's a sail boat that isn't what ERROR looks like that's just literally how sailing works
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux So... Intelligence is a dirt simple root finding algorithm?
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@KatLS I read that as "sadly tacks" and thought that was the most brilliant sailing-themed play on this
@ArchiteuthisFlux @KatLS I know it's probably just inserted for comedic effect, but I love the idea that the text is an original closed caption for the benefit of deaf viewers who can't hear the sadness of the go-karting.
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
So intelligence is just convergent series?
If I keep facepalming that hard I'm gonna look like a French bulldog that ran at a relativistic speed into a bulletproof glass door.
Hoomans, please stop with the stupidity. We already know Einstein was right, we don't need more data points.
Thank you – management.
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux boats is moths
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@blotosmetek @hypostase @ArchiteuthisFlux Why let the truth get in the way of a good story though
@_thegeoff @blotosmetek @hypostase @ArchiteuthisFlux
But I do love the Spanish version of the story
https://youtu.be/KvRYd8U7qGYBeginning to think like this has become a standard filmmakers coursework exercise given that I've now seen 3 different versions that made it all the way to being filmed with actors, crew, etc
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@_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux as much as I want this to be true..... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-obstinate-lighthouse/
@_thegeoff @ArchiteuthisFlux @snail Well what is true is that a US Navy aircraft carrier emerged from the fog in the middle of the 1995 America's Cup racecourse near San Diego. IMO, all excuses the captain brought forward should have cost him his ticket.
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@ArchiteuthisFlux
"Canadian coastguard, this is the US Navy, we are on a collision course. Adjust your bearing 10 degrees south.""Nope."
"We say again, collision course, change your bearing."
"Nope."
"Canadian coastguard, we are an aircraft carrier with a support fleet of two destroyers, three cruisers, a small flotilla of support craft and a classified number of submarines. If you do not change your bearing we will take appropriate action."
"We're a lighthouse. Your call."
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It's probably just because my family's in the fishing industry that I know the secrets of the sea: for instance, boats go on the water and lighthouses go on land, and they should generally not be in the same place at the same time.
@ArchiteuthisFlux Could they be delivering groceries to the lighthouse?
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux [holds up a PID controller] BEHOLD! an intelligent system!
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux the lighthouse knows where it is.
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@ArchiteuthisFlux responding to a lighthouse is not a bad metaphor for intelligence though, because it actually involves:
(a) observation—what is this lighthouse's pattern?
(b) measurement—what bearing is it...
(c) self-knowledge—...relative to my heading?
(d) external information—where is it on the chart?
(e) correlation—conclude where i am along a line
(f) prediction—where i will be after a period of time
(g) decision-making—is that where i want to be?
(h) action—course correct as needed.@vfig @ArchiteuthisFlux Sure, but the diagram displays a catastrophic failure at step (g).
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omg I'm reading this dumb twitter article but can't continue because I'm laughing too hard at this diagram. Like, using this as a definition of an intelligent system then crashing into the fucking rocks because you don't know wtf a lighthouse is.
@ArchiteuthisFlux The fools. They don't even know that boats attempting to crash into a lighthouse don't steer "right" or "left", but rather starboard and port.
