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  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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    #12

    @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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      #13

      @capitainesam

      Just say No to Biometric Identity Verification 🙂🖖

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      • V vrek@mastodon.social

        @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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        #14

        @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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        • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

          @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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          #15

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam hmm... I read that too but same as you it's been over a decade, might be time for a re-read

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          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

            When your password leaks:
            → Change your password
            → Problem solved

            When your biometric data leaks:
            → You can't change your face
            → You can't change your fingerprints
            → The compromise is permanent
            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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            #16

            @capitainesam until you start abusing billionaires biometric data, nothing will ever happen... Even then only use of theirs will be quickly outlawed.

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            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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              #17

              @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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              • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                @capitainesam

                > You can't change your face

                Not with that attitude

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                #18

                @capitainesam@mastodon.social @negative12dollarbill@techhub.social yeah, easy. just get plastic surgery, duhhhhh /j

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @capitainesam

                  People will find out...

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                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                    #20

                    @capitainesam Is it's actually biometric data, it's also tied to the algorithm used to calculate it. Too often, though, companies don't just store the biometric data, but the raw data such as an image of your face. They should not be doing that.

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                    • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                      @capitainesam

                      > You can't change your face

                      Not with that attitude

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                      #21

                      @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

                      Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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                      • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                        @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                        One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                        Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                        #22

                        @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                        • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

                          @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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                          #23

                          @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                          • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

                            @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                            #24

                            @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                            • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                              @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                              #25

                              @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                              • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

                                @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                                #26

                                @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                  #27

                                  @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                    #28

                                    @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                      #29

                                      @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        When your password leaks:
                                        → Change your password
                                        → Problem solved

                                        When your biometric data leaks:
                                        → You can't change your face
                                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                                        → The compromise is permanent
                                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                        mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #30

                                        @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                          When your password leaks:
                                          → Change your password
                                          → Problem solved

                                          When your biometric data leaks:
                                          → You can't change your face
                                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                                          → The compromise is permanent
                                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                          #31

                                          @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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