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I know a guy who used to be a conservative, until he went to college.

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  • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

    He also told me he still reads Fox News, but with a critical eye, and so he can easily counter things his conservative friends (and family) tell him.

    I remember him telling me that, and occasionally look at Fox News to see how they see things.

    Here's an interesting one full of scary buzzwords like "Socialism" and "Communists".

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr

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    #25

    @rasterweb I met people in New Hampshire, 40 minutes away from Boston, proud of the fact that they had never entered the city.

    Go figure.

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    • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

      I know a guy who used to be a conservative, until he went to college. It wasn't "woke professors" that change him to a liberal, it was being in an actual city instead of the small town he grew up in.

      Meeting more diverse people made him realize he was fed lies about others while growing up.

      So yeah, if you ever wondered why the right wants to shut down education and universities, that's one reason.

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      #26

      @rasterweb

      The more I travel the more I like people, especially those different than me.

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      • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

        He also told me he still reads Fox News, but with a critical eye, and so he can easily counter things his conservative friends (and family) tell him.

        I remember him telling me that, and occasionally look at Fox News to see how they see things.

        Here's an interesting one full of scary buzzwords like "Socialism" and "Communists".

        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr

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        #27

        @rasterweb I feel like an extreme outlier on mastodon. grew up in a suburban religious household and went to college at big state school. My roommates told me I wasn't conservative. My Dad in his final years liked Trump, and was a bit of an us vs them, good vs bad person.

        I don't think my views have changed much. Liberals don't know what conservatives hear and vs versa. I tried listening to conservative media, but they are so low brow, wow the amount of divisiveness! I had to move to podcasts.

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        • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

          We also learn that an Airtable spreadsheet is "a sophisticated tracking database" used by "far left agitators"...

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          #28

          @rasterweb

          This is great. I mean, horrible, but you know...

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          • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

            I know a guy who used to be a conservative, until he went to college. It wasn't "woke professors" that change him to a liberal, it was being in an actual city instead of the small town he grew up in.

            Meeting more diverse people made him realize he was fed lies about others while growing up.

            So yeah, if you ever wondered why the right wants to shut down education and universities, that's one reason.

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            #29

            @rasterweb a "MAGA for Mamdani" supporter was interviewed for this episode, from #MorePerfectUnion, and he said his awakening to the values of socialism was a visit to Japan, and needing to get healthcare while there, and discovering how well it worked for him, the human who needed healthcare and got it.

            https://youtu.be/ICroxl2r1B8

            "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."

            - #MarkTwain, The Innocents Abroad / Roughing It

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            • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

              @rasterweb a "MAGA for Mamdani" supporter was interviewed for this episode, from #MorePerfectUnion, and he said his awakening to the values of socialism was a visit to Japan, and needing to get healthcare while there, and discovering how well it worked for him, the human who needed healthcare and got it.

              https://youtu.be/ICroxl2r1B8

              "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."

              - #MarkTwain, The Innocents Abroad / Roughing It

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              #30

              @morgan I saw that video last week! It makes you confused but also hopeful?

              I remember back in November AOC doing a livestream and finding out people voted for her but also voted for Trump... One guy said "You both stand up for people and say what you think!" and, uh, well...

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              • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                @morgan I saw that video last week! It makes you confused but also hopeful?

                I remember back in November AOC doing a livestream and finding out people voted for her but also voted for Trump... One guy said "You both stand up for people and say what you think!" and, uh, well...

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                #31

                @rasterweb ideology will be our undoing. Finding common ground among the thick overgrowth of ideology will lead us to the path through.

                Really tortured metaphor there

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                • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                  @rasterweb I feel like an extreme outlier on mastodon. grew up in a suburban religious household and went to college at big state school. My roommates told me I wasn't conservative. My Dad in his final years liked Trump, and was a bit of an us vs them, good vs bad person.

                  I don't think my views have changed much. Liberals don't know what conservatives hear and vs versa. I tried listening to conservative media, but they are so low brow, wow the amount of divisiveness! I had to move to podcasts.

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                  #32

                  @rasterweb I guess I'm a communist Marxist socialist because I'm on my local "encrypted" ICE Signal group, carry a whistle and know how to use a spreadsheet.

                  OK then... That's a weird way to redefine words... But fine.

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                  • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                    I know a guy who used to be a conservative, until he went to college. It wasn't "woke professors" that change him to a liberal, it was being in an actual city instead of the small town he grew up in.

                    Meeting more diverse people made him realize he was fed lies about others while growing up.

                    So yeah, if you ever wondered why the right wants to shut down education and universities, that's one reason.

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                    #33

                    @rasterweb Right is wrong, left is correct.

                    Right wing simply favours the lucky few too much.

                    Left wing has flaws but serves the needy far more.

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                    • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                      @rasterweb I guess I'm a communist Marxist socialist because I'm on my local "encrypted" ICE Signal group, carry a whistle and know how to use a spreadsheet.

                      OK then... That's a weird way to redefine words... But fine.

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                      #34

                      @poleguy @rasterweb This ridiculous rhetoric has inspired so many people to want to know more about communism and socialism. What Marx wrote is incredibly relevant and makes hell of a lot more sense than whatever nonsense establishment American politicians have been selling us since the eighties. America didn't win the cold war against communism, we lost the war against authoritarianism.

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                      • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                        @rasterweb I feel like an extreme outlier on mastodon. grew up in a suburban religious household and went to college at big state school. My roommates told me I wasn't conservative. My Dad in his final years liked Trump, and was a bit of an us vs them, good vs bad person.

                        I don't think my views have changed much. Liberals don't know what conservatives hear and vs versa. I tried listening to conservative media, but they are so low brow, wow the amount of divisiveness! I had to move to podcasts.

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                        #35

                        @poleguy @rasterweb

                        Disagree, liberals do indeed know what conservatives hear and what they say.

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                        • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

                          @rasterweb a "MAGA for Mamdani" supporter was interviewed for this episode, from #MorePerfectUnion, and he said his awakening to the values of socialism was a visit to Japan, and needing to get healthcare while there, and discovering how well it worked for him, the human who needed healthcare and got it.

                          https://youtu.be/ICroxl2r1B8

                          "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."

                          - #MarkTwain, The Innocents Abroad / Roughing It

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                          #36

                          @morgan @rasterweb

                          Nothing is ever "real" to them until it is personal. See also "the only moral abortion is my abortion"

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                          • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                            @morgan @rasterweb

                            Nothing is ever "real" to them until it is personal. See also "the only moral abortion is my abortion"

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                            #37

                            @darwinwoodka @rasterweb

                            Ten or so years ago, I heard a kid speak at an awards ceremony. He was being awarded for his contribution to the community, in this case, as a trail builder / maintainer. He used this phrase as the keynote of his speech.

                            "There is no they. They is us."

                            He talked about how trail users would complain that "They should..." when it was apparent to him that there is no they, they is us. We should.

                            @darwinwoodka please don't take this as anything other than me trying to find a way forward.

                            There is no them. They is us.

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                            • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                              @poleguy @rasterweb

                              Disagree, liberals do indeed know what conservatives hear and what they say.

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                              #38

                              @darwinwoodka @rasterweb How about conservatives? Do they know what liberals hear when they say what they say?

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