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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    @_elena Everything on Bsky is public

    They don’t care about privacy

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    #36

    @stux indeed. it's like a perfect honeypot if you think about it

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

      Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

      I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

      The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

      sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @_elena
      It's weird that one's blocks are visible on Bluesky. However, what's so bad if ICE knows one has blocked them?

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      • sloanlance@mastodon.socialS sloanlance@mastodon.social

        @_elena
        It's weird that one's blocks are visible on Bluesky. However, what's so bad if ICE knows one has blocked them?

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        #38

        @sloanlance not just ICE but also 4Chan-minded bad actors that may harass users blocking gov accounts

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        • sloanlance@mastodon.socialS sloanlance@mastodon.social

          @_elena
          It's weird that one's blocks are visible on Bluesky. However, what's so bad if ICE knows one has blocked them?

          snork303@toot.communityS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @sloanlance
          It gives an immediate indication that you might be anti-ICE. Then if they were so inclined they could investigate further, looking for "terroristic" statements or whatever.

          @_elena

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

            Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

            I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

            The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

            paulbrzeski@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #40

            @_elena If you're outside the United States, make sure to write to your politicians to tell them you don't want your nation's security and immigration working with ICE! Wearing masks and shooting innocent civilians, threatening violence and terrorising the general population, these are not the behaviors of a legitimate law enforcement agency.

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            • bjoerne@norden.socialB bjoerne@norden.social shared this topic
            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

              Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

              I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

              The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

              darth_hideout@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @_elena

              I blocked the entire bsky.brid.gy instance as well as blocking the bridge bot.

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              • ebinger@bildung.socialE ebinger@bildung.social shared this topic
              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                naturemc@mastodon.online
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                #42

                @_elena and what about subscribing to block lists? There are block lists for fascism ... as dangerous for US people?

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                  Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                  I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                  The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                  starcross@mk.absturztau.beS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  @_elena@mastodon.social this just screams psyop to me (ICE going on bluesky)

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                  • eyjala@mastodon.socialE eyjala@mastodon.social shared this topic
                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                    kali@discuss.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @_elena this is pretty stupid lol

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                    • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                      @u_urban @_elena I feel like all the people who went to Bluesky because Twitter died and became the rabid zombie X learned precisely nothing. It is inevitable that Bluesky will hurt them too, but they will not go to Mastodon because any of a number of silly reasons they'll fight tooth and nail not to let go of.

                      I suppose a Redsky will open up and they'll go to it, then it will go bad and then a Puke Green Sky will open up and they'll go to that, and then a Gangrene Sky will open...

                      naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @nazokiyoubinbou Just a note for the Fediverse = paradise adepts: I'm regularly blocking and if possible reporting Maga propaganda even on Mastodon. You can get evil people *everywhere*.
                      The question is how much you can protect yourself or if such attempts are defederated or suspended.
                      Here, the Fediverse is better because human moderators. But most people don't know that difference. And would Mastodon be prepared if the ICE opens an account?

                      @u_urban @_elena

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        @_elena Everything on Bsky is public

                        They don’t care about privacy

                        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #46

                        @stux BTW, blocking on Mastodon is also visible. And worse: blocked people can often still read all your public postings. We also have room for improvement when it comes to safety!

                        @_elena

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                        • vladcampos@mastodon.socialV vladcampos@mastodon.social

                          @_elena There are many more companies, institutions, news outlets, YouTubers etc. there then here. For example, several EU institutions and politicians are pretty active there. So, I have a few lists and use it as sort of a reader to check the latest news and other information once or twice a day. Mastodon is where I follow and interact with real people, which is what I really enjoy here.

                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #47

                          @vladcampos This. And a lot of independent media/journalists, scientists, climate scientists especially, NGOs. Doing Social Media professionally, I am obliged to have an account there for reading their news.
                          Many left Mastodon after a test phase reporting they had bad experiences with people telling them on the very first day how they have to behave or write their posts.
                          I like the Fediverse like you, it's my centre. But for reaching masses (important for activists), it's too niche.

                          @_elena

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                            Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                            I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                            The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                            canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #48

                            @_elena I am staying here. No Stasi, no Nazis, no AfD, no ICE, no DHS, no CDU, no CCP….problem solved.

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                            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                              @nazokiyoubinbou Just a note for the Fediverse = paradise adepts: I'm regularly blocking and if possible reporting Maga propaganda even on Mastodon. You can get evil people *everywhere*.
                              The question is how much you can protect yourself or if such attempts are defederated or suspended.
                              Here, the Fediverse is better because human moderators. But most people don't know that difference. And would Mastodon be prepared if the ICE opens an account?

                              @u_urban @_elena

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                              #49

                              @NatureMC @nazokiyoubinbou @_elena

                              It would be blocked by most instances, mine for shure, I had the freedom to choose!

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                              • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                @vladcampos This. And a lot of independent media/journalists, scientists, climate scientists especially, NGOs. Doing Social Media professionally, I am obliged to have an account there for reading their news.
                                Many left Mastodon after a test phase reporting they had bad experiences with people telling them on the very first day how they have to behave or write their posts.
                                I like the Fediverse like you, it's my centre. But for reaching masses (important for activists), it's too niche.

                                @_elena

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                                #50

                                @NatureMC @_elena That “telling how to behave" is so true. It happened to me the very first time I tried Mastodon. All I did was post a picture of myself to illustrate something I wanted to mention about a run, and I was told it should be set as “content warning". It was a very basic picture, but because it was a selfie, I "should set it as content warning." Why? It was a very unwelcoming experience.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                                  Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                                  I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                                  The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                                  ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #51

                                  @_elena "I will just block it" doesn't solve the problem of the social media platform you enrich by posting on approving of a local gestapo

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                                  • u_urban@social.tchncs.deU u_urban@social.tchncs.de

                                    @NatureMC @nazokiyoubinbou @_elena

                                    It would be blocked by most instances, mine for shure, I had the freedom to choose!

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                                    #52

                                    @u_urban Great to hear. And then it would be easy to move to such an instance to be free of them.
                                    BTW, the moderators here do a hard and great job, especially when we have a wave of propaganda-fake-accounts. You can nearly watch real time how these fakes at last hide on tiny unmoderated instances before they are gone.
                                    People outside often don't know that our moderation is still hand-made.

                                    @nazokiyoubinbou @_elena

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                                    • vladcampos@mastodon.socialV vladcampos@mastodon.social

                                      @NatureMC @_elena That “telling how to behave" is so true. It happened to me the very first time I tried Mastodon. All I did was post a picture of myself to illustrate something I wanted to mention about a run, and I was told it should be set as “content warning". It was a very basic picture, but because it was a selfie, I "should set it as content warning." Why? It was a very unwelcoming experience.

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                                      #53

                                      @vladcampos You're not alone! At the moment, a newcomer is lost in technics, some hardliners play police instead of saying welcome, let them land, and just say: if you need help or want to understand why ... just ask me.

                                      @_elena

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                                      • aoeberlin@social.vivaldi.netA aoeberlin@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @_elena @hyperreal How to block the bridge? Thanks!

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                                        #54

                                        @aoeBerlin @_elena @hyperreal

                                        https://sfba.social/@drahardja/115908542368696091

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                                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                          @stux BTW, blocking on Mastodon is also visible. And worse: blocked people can often still read all your public postings. We also have room for improvement when it comes to safety!

                                          @_elena

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                                          #55

                                          @NatureMC @_elena Well yeah but that’s if you have a public profile 😉

                                          There is no way around that, without an account anyone can view those from the public pages. That’s why we have followers-only for example

                                          But the block lists are not public on Mastodon and on Bsky they are

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