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To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.#solarpunk

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  • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

    @markmetz
    Can this mushroom-based packing material be deployed at scale?
    I, for one, sure hope so.

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    #23

    @Guillotine_Jones @markmetz pretty much anyone can make it, using whatever feedstock biowaste is readily available in your region, and you don't need massive machines or anything, so it certainly supports that kind of grassroots "at scale."

    Eben Bayer was pushing this back in 2010, and you'd think by now it would be the default packaging technology, but I guess he patented the shit out of this whole space which is why that hasn't happened yet.

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    • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

      @markmetz But, are we sure the mushroom packagings will not evolve into blobs that will grow and eat us in the end ? 😱

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      #24

      @jor
      If only....
      @markmetz

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      • mndflayr@metalhead.clubM mndflayr@metalhead.club

        @markmetz

        Using both hemp and magic mushrooms.

        .... Interesting....

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        #25

        @mndflayr @markmetz I don’t think they are using the mushrooms you are thinking of.

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        • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

          To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
          #solarpunk

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          #26

          @markmetz How is this better than pulped cellulose or cornstarch, which is already in use?

          As with the other plant based polystyrene substitutes, there are likely applications it doesn’t work due to permeability.

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          • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

            To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
            #solarpunk

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            #27

            @markmetz amazing but there have to be side effects.
            using fungi surely has side effects. Just like using aluminium or other metals or .. plastics

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            • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

              To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
              #solarpunk

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              #28

              @markmetz Wonderful!

              And undoubtedly, the Fediverse is the only place where I can see something with #solarpunk hash on the top of the trending list. Keep up the great work, fediversers.

              (searching for the company may be difficult, though)

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              • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

                To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
                #solarpunk

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                #29

                @markmetz also how old are the people from this video now? It looks like it's a video from the 90s

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                • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

                  To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
                  #solarpunk

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                  #30

                  @markmetz yes more, more, more please

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                  • domo@pizza.enby.cityD domo@pizza.enby.city

                    @markmetz I love this, but I can't share it because there's no alt text.

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                    #31

                    @domo @markmetz I found the company site:
                    https://magicalmushroom.com/

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                    • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

                      @markmetz But, are we sure the mushroom packagings will not evolve into blobs that will grow and eat us in the end ? 😱

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                      #32

                      @jor @markmetz always, always be aware of the blob...
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-heIT3L9Qg

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                      • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                        @jor @markmetz always, always be aware of the blob...
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-heIT3L9Qg

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                        #33

                        @IngridHbn @markmetz Exactly. 😱

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                        • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

                          To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
                          #solarpunk

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                          #34

                          @markmetz i remember this tech from ~20 years ago at some very hippy forum, someone was making insulation sheets with mycelium. Great if theyve found niche that can work with it.

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                          • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

                            To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
                            #solarpunk

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                            #35

                            @markmetz The #goodNews: It's no more 'only' #solarpunk, it's already industry (the video seems to be quite old). Here in France, we have companies producing #packages from #mycelium, hemp, algues, or plant waste.
                            Also in other EU countries like Belgium: https://www.permafungi.be/en - which is cofounded by the EU!

                            The French anti-plastic laws have accelerated these developments.

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                            • admin@goeppingen.socialA admin@goeppingen.social

                              @markmetz amazing but there have to be side effects.
                              using fungi surely has side effects. Just like using aluminium or other metals or .. plastics

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                              #36

                              @admin Why should it?
                              Mycelium packages are checked just as meticulously as everything else for suitability and characteristics regulations before they are ready for the market. They are used for goods as a substitute for polystyrene https://www.permafungi.be/en/nos-clients

                              @markmetz

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                              • silverarrows@autistics.lifeS silverarrows@autistics.life

                                @markmetz there was a documentary about this on BBC2 like 15 years ago and it looked like such a great development. I never heard anything of it again. I hope it's finally taking off.

                                #mushrooms #mycelium

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                                #37

                                @SilverArrows Those packages are already in our shops. There are several European companies producing them. (You can find some in the comments here).

                                @markmetz

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                                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                  @admin Why should it?
                                  Mycelium packages are checked just as meticulously as everything else for suitability and characteristics regulations before they are ready for the market. They are used for goods as a substitute for polystyrene https://www.permafungi.be/en/nos-clients

                                  @markmetz

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                                  #38

                                  @NatureMC @markmetz because EVERYTHING has side effects, so what are the side effects of this?

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                                  • c_salem@mastodon.socialC c_salem@mastodon.social

                                    @markmetz can someone fund the shit out of this project? Oh wait, I forgot the people with money are assholes.

                                    But seriously, this is amazing!!

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                                    #39

                                    @c_salem Such projects are already funded by the EU, e.g. the Belgian company Permafungi.
                                    And the packages are in the shops. In France e.g. https://www.embelium.fr/ - and outside the EU you have Mushroom Packaging UK.

                                    @markmetz

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                                    • markmetz@sfba.socialM markmetz@sfba.social

                                      To hell with AI, more innovation like this please.
                                      #solarpunk

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                                      #40

                                      @markmetz

                                      Every time I encounter polystyrene/Styrofoam my day is significantly worse

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                                      • admin@goeppingen.socialA admin@goeppingen.social

                                        @NatureMC @markmetz because EVERYTHING has side effects, so what are the side effects of this?

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                                        #41

                                        @admin There's a lot of info in the internet! You can also ask the producers for which case the packages are used.

                                        #Mycelium is one of the foundations of life. It permeates the entire soil of earth. Most food plants cannot survive at all without symbiosis with mycorrhiza (= mycelium firmly connected to their roots). Every good compost has plenty of mycelium.

                                        @markmetz

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                                        • extra_special_carbon@mastodon.worldE extra_special_carbon@mastodon.world

                                          @mndflayr @markmetz I don’t think they are using the mushrooms you are thinking of.

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                                          #42

                                          @Extra_Special_Carbon @mndflayr @markmetz
                                          ... and the wrong type of hemp!

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