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The British Museum has removed the word #Palestine from displays about the ancient Middle East following complaints.

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  • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri You have no idea why they made the decision, you're just making up a story that makes feel angry.

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    #42

    @vy @Geri

    Oh but the UKLFI have admitted they did it.

    It's on their own website.

    You need to grow up.

    https://www.uklfi.com/british-museum-reviewing-palestine-terminology-in-galleries-after-audience-testing

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    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

      @vy @Geri

      Oh but the UKLFI have admitted they did it.

      It's on their own website.

      You need to grow up.

      https://www.uklfi.com/british-museum-reviewing-palestine-terminology-in-galleries-after-audience-testing

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      #43

      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri What they said on their website is "UKLFI requested that the Museum review its collections and revise terminology so regions are referred to by historically accurate names such as Canaan, the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, or Judea, depending on the period being described." so they asked for that "scholarly" process. Is there something wrong with that? Is it accurate to use the European term "Palestine" for ancient Cannonite cities?

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      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

        @vy @Geri

        You seem like the person in the room who says "but Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals".

        You appear to demonstrate an immaturity, a naiveté, about the wider context that includes

        1. A malevolent group, the UKLFI, pressuring British institutions to make changes in a way that they would not do. The same group that forced a London hospital to be take down childrens art.

        2. The ramping up of the genocide of Palestine, its people, culture, its history, its very memory.

        1/2

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        #44

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri The use of "Palestine" to describe parts of the Levant was in pre-Roman times is a European anachronism and is not accurate.

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        • J justinmac84@mastodon.social

          @Geri Jesus Christ!

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          #45

          @JustinMac84 @Geri eh? How he could be involved if the actual people making the complaints, Jews, were the ones who murdered Him.

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          • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

            @vy @Geri

            Thank you for demonstrating to any readers the weaknesses of European liberals on this matter.

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            #46

            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri I am for historical accuracy in museum exhibitions. If that is weakness, so be it.

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            • kate@hai.z0ne.socialK kate@hai.z0ne.social

              @Geri@mastodon.online ..UK seems to now have developed a full illness about Palestine with a rash on every face and fever inside almost every brain?
              I would have thought that the name "Farage" would have caused something alike.
              What is this obsession? Instead of defending an unstable description of ideas about Palestine and recognizing actual facts they seem to put much effort into useless scaffolding to support the feverish Palestine aversion?
              Is everybody mad now?

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              #47

              @kate @Geri Well it's quite easy to understand that Israel led a blackmail operation and now have UK under their control. Kinda like how Russia was able to influence Brexit in UK. UK politicians are always up for highest bidder.

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              • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri What they said on their website is "UKLFI requested that the Museum review its collections and revise terminology so regions are referred to by historically accurate names such as Canaan, the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, or Judea, depending on the period being described." so they asked for that "scholarly" process. Is there something wrong with that? Is it accurate to use the European term "Palestine" for ancient Cannonite cities?

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                #48

                @vy @Geri

                What was this scholarly process?

                If you weren't so naive you'd realise that letter was a threat.

                That group had form.

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                • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                  @Geri Who made those complaints? People who object to fake history. The word "Palestine" was used by Roman (European) imperialists for what was left over after their genocide in Israel/Judea. There is no evidence of prior use.

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                  #49

                  @vy The term "Peleset" appears in Egyptian inscriptions around 1150 BCE. Later, the Greek historian Herodotus used "Palaistinē" in the 5th century BCE to describe the region

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                  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                    @vy @Geri

                    What was this scholarly process?

                    If you weren't so naive you'd realise that letter was a threat.

                    That group had form.

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                    #50

                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @vy The term #Palestine first appeared in Ancient Egyptian texts (as Peleset) around 1150 BCE to describe the Philistine people. The Greek historian Herodotus later used "Palaistinē" in the 5th century BCE to refer to the wider region.

                    (Ahem)

                    #freepalestine

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                    • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Geri The use of "Palestine" to describe parts of the Levant was in pre-Roman times is a European anachronism and is not accurate.

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                      #51

                      @vy @charlesdelavalleepoussin see my previous reply, thanks xx

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                      • x41h@infosec.exchangeX x41h@infosec.exchange

                        @kate @Geri Well it's quite easy to understand that Israel led a blackmail operation and now have UK under their control. Kinda like how Russia was able to influence Brexit in UK. UK politicians are always up for highest bidder.

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                        #52

                        @x41h @kate @Geri and how orchestrated transphobia is trying to erase trans people from public spaces and private groups like Women's Institute. Not as bad as Israel using thermal bombs to disintegrate Palestinians but with similar long term aims.

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                        • kay@mastodon.nzK kay@mastodon.nz

                          @x41h @kate @Geri and how orchestrated transphobia is trying to erase trans people from public spaces and private groups like Women's Institute. Not as bad as Israel using thermal bombs to disintegrate Palestinians but with similar long term aims.

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                          #53

                          @Kay @kate @Geri I think bottom line is people need to stand up to Israel and say ENOUGH with their weaponized targeted killings, genocide, attacks on LGBQT, blackmail operations, political influence, human trafficking, biolabs being propped up in US.

                          FFS enough is enough with their bullshit already.

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                          • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                            @Geri

                            The UK Lawyers for Israel (UKLFI) according to this report.

                            https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/british-museum-palestine-middle-east-displays-b1271100.html

                            They also had the children's art removed from a London hospital.

                            https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-gaza-children-artwork-london-hospital-removed-legal-action-threat

                            its on their own website they're proud of it

                            https://www.uklfi.com/hospital-removes-gaza-artwork-from-hospital-corridor

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                            #54

                            @charlesdelavalleepoussin outstanding find, Charles !!

                            My post was mere conjecture

                            May I recycle some of these details?

                            Xxx

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                            • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                              @charlesdelavalleepoussin outstanding find, Charles !!

                              My post was mere conjecture

                              May I recycle some of these details?

                              Xxx

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                              #55

                              @Geri

                              Go for it, it is all public information

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                              • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                @charlesdelavalleepoussin @vy The term #Palestine first appeared in Ancient Egyptian texts (as Peleset) around 1150 BCE to describe the Philistine people. The Greek historian Herodotus later used "Palaistinē" in the 5th century BCE to refer to the wider region.

                                (Ahem)

                                #freepalestine

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                                #56

                                @Geri @charlesdelavalleepoussin Not everything that starts with "P" in transcription to latin alphabet is the same as "Palestine". In particular "Peleset" which, as far as I remember, means "Sea People" describes a wide group of related invaders of Egypt whose origins are not known.

                                As Wikipedia points out, there is a scholarly consensus.

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                                • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                  @JustinMac84
                                  You never know, he might indeed be involved.
                                  @Geri

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                                  #57

                                  @alterelefant @Geri My exclamation was down to annoyance and indignation at the erasure by the British Musieum. I am less bothered about who whinged about it than that the museum took the action.

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