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I need to transfer 350GB of data from my home to my parents' home.

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I need to transfer 350GB of data from my home to my parents' home.

    It will take ~70 hours longer to do this via the Internet, than if I copied it to a drive here, travelled there, plugged the drive in, then travelled back.

    Oh well.

    kbm0@mastodon.socialK bigiain@aus.socialB karldyson@mastodon.socialK knapjack@gruntle.ccK neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN 6 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @flux

      > Not time to get them to upgrade?

      There's no viable option for that currently, where they live.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @flux I've started the rsync 🙂

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @ross

          I want to say "Snowball", perhaps?

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @flux @david_chisnall

            My parents' VDSL download is the bottleneck here, but that's fine - it will be done when it is done, even if I have to pause it during the day to avoid saturating their line while they need to use it.

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @RootMoose @flux

              I *think* that that is most useful for individually large files, rather than a load of small files, as I have here. But useful all the same!

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall I am not aware of a way to do it adaptively by time (e.g. use full bandwidth during "night" hours, and throttle to 2Mbit during "day" hours), or any other factor come to think of it...

                Ideas welcome!

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                  neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @SforStuart That must be slower than my rsyncing it!

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @SforStuart My parents' VDSL line is running at about 12Mbit, so I might as well just push the files to them!

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      @SforStuart My parents' VDSL line is running at about 12Mbit, so I might as well just push the files to them!

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                      #10

                      @SforStuart I'm definitely not the bottleneck here 🙂 I'd be very surprised if they could download it from OneDrive faster than they can download it from me.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall I am not aware of a way to do it adaptively by time (e.g. use full bandwidth during "night" hours, and throttle to 2Mbit during "day" hours), or any other factor come to think of it...

                        Ideas welcome!

                        mansr@society.oftrolls.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @neil @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall Restrict it to 90% all the time.

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                        • mansr@society.oftrolls.comM mansr@society.oftrolls.com

                          @neil @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall Restrict it to 90% all the time.

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                          #12

                          @mansr @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall

                          That would leave my parents with ~1Mbit, so not ideal!

                          mansr@society.oftrolls.comM david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            @mansr @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall

                            That would leave my parents with ~1Mbit, so not ideal!

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                            #13

                            @neil @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall I suppose you could have a cron job restart the rsync with different options at different times. There are also ways of rate limiting at the kernel level.

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                            • mansr@society.oftrolls.comM mansr@society.oftrolls.com

                              @neil @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall I suppose you could have a cron job restart the rsync with different options at different times. There are also ways of rate limiting at the kernel level.

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                              #14

                              @mansr @neil @bojanlandekic @david_chisnall Yes! Lots of good options. Wonder if rclone has some additional features that make it easier than rsync to manage.

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                              • flux@mastodon.unwi.reF flux@mastodon.unwi.re

                                @mansr @neil @bojanlandekic @david_chisnall Yes! Lots of good options. Wonder if rclone has some additional features that make it easier than rsync to manage.

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                                #15

                                @flux @neil @bojanlandekic @david_chisnall Additional features is something I've rarely wished for in rsync.

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  @mansr @bojanlandekic @flux @david_chisnall

                                  That would leave my parents with ~1Mbit, so not ideal!

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                                  #16

                                  @neil @mansr @bojanlandekic @flux

                                  TCP rate limits based on the delay of the acknowledgments and most consumer routers are pretty good at ensuring some modest fairness between streams.

                                  The main failure mode is in the opposite direction with asymmetric home connections. If you’re doing a lot of uploads, the TCP window replies get delayed and that tanks the download speed.

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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    I need to transfer 350GB of data from my home to my parents' home.

                                    It will take ~70 hours longer to do this via the Internet, than if I copied it to a drive here, travelled there, plugged the drive in, then travelled back.

                                    Oh well.

                                    kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @neil This reminds me of a visit to Jodrell Bank in the early 2000s. They were syncing data between an international array of radio telescopes, and boasted that their fastest data transfer medium was FedEx.

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                                    • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                                      @neil This reminds me of a visit to Jodrell Bank in the early 2000s. They were syncing data between an international array of radio telescopes, and boasted that their fastest data transfer medium was FedEx.

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                                      #18

                                      @kbm0 Yep!

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        I need to transfer 350GB of data from my home to my parents' home.

                                        It will take ~70 hours longer to do this via the Internet, than if I copied it to a drive here, travelled there, plugged the drive in, then travelled back.

                                        Oh well.

                                        bigiain@aus.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @neil Here’s me, preparing to transfer half a terabyte from our data center to the office. 20 mins or so, less if I ignored a few speed limits.

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          I need to transfer 350GB of data from my home to my parents' home.

                                          It will take ~70 hours longer to do this via the Internet, than if I copied it to a drive here, travelled there, plugged the drive in, then travelled back.

                                          Oh well.

                                          karldyson@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @neil A few years ago, a friend of mine used to use the phrase "sneakernet" for that.

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