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Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

    @mike @jokeyrhyme there were mentions/news last year, that things (regulation-wise) will be simplified - for end-users that is I'm not sure where/how that ended though.

    Btw, I'm aware that's not the solution to malicious compliance, but Consent-o-matic add-on usually does the job well.

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    #43

    @gim @mike @jokeyrhyme That's another try to be US-Bigtech friendly by the politicians/EU commission.
    The problem the runway for that is getting shorter and shorter. The last time (In the never ending Schrems Saga) the ECJ bound the GDPR privacy rights literally directly to the Charter, so bending the GDPR to weaken privacy literally would require EU Treaty changes.
    So the whole thing the EU Commission is planning stands on wooden feet, but it will buy the "IT industry" a couple of months/years.

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    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

      I wonder how many others do this.

      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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      #44

      @mike @dangillmor Same.

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      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

        I wonder how many others do this.

        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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        #45

        @mike Yes indeed! but I fear we are a minority. Fediverse-based sample group probably a bit biased.

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        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

          I wonder how many others do this.

          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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          #46

          @mike
          me too

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

            I wonder how many others do this.

            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

            —
            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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            #47

            @mike I do that too!
            Relatedly I have been getting completely blocked pages because I use an ad blocker and am redirected to a page that says I need to allow them to serve content I don’t want. I don’t follow that either.

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            • jokeyrhyme@aus.socialJ jokeyrhyme@aus.social

              @mike I hate that the EU didn't just ban non-essential cookies completely instead of presenting users with the illusion of choice

              very tired of this malicious compliance

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              #48

              @jokeyrhyme @mike In the EU, the ones where you have to deselect a gazillion cookies are actually malicious non-compliance, they have been found illegal. Unfortunately there isn’t much enforcement, so it mostly continues.

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              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                I wonder how many others do this.

                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                —
                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                #49

                I do exactly the same. I refined this just a little bit recently:
                When I am *really* curious about the article, I turn on the browser‘s „reader“ mode to see if it then reveals the full article. If it still does not work, I close the tab.
                @mike @onepict

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                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                  I wonder how many others do this.

                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                  —
                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                  #50

                  @mike I give it another chance via archive.is link. Otherwise, I don't bother with the article

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                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                    #51

                    @mike as a european living in the US i find it extremely frustrating that websites where i used to go for news for example that offer an easy option to do it if you open them within EU will flat reject to show anything in the US unless you agree to have your data processed and shared with all 437 of their "partners"

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                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                      I wonder how many others do this.

                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                      —
                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                      #52

                      @mike #metoo

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                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                        I wonder how many others do this.

                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                        —
                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                        #53

                        @mike 🙋🏼‍♀️ same

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                        • jokeyrhyme@aus.socialJ jokeyrhyme@aus.social

                          @mike I hate that the EU didn't just ban non-essential cookies completely instead of presenting users with the illusion of choice

                          very tired of this malicious compliance

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                          #54

                          @jokeyrhyme @mike EU should've made adherence to Do Not Track mandatory.

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                          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                            #55

                            @mike I could be mistaken but I think if you have 3rd party (cross site) cookies blocked in your browser settings it doesn't matter what cookies they try to set.

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                            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                              #56

                              @mike I do this too.

                              If it's something I feel like I "need" to read then I open it in Duck and burn after reading. Don't know if it's ideal but makes me feel better at least.

                              I'd honestly prefer them to say "we're tracking you and sharing your data to make money" than read "we care about your privacy" one more time.

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                              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                I wonder how many others do this.

                                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                —
                                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                #57

                                @mike Almost the same, I’ll spend a second or two hunting for the “reject all” button in case they’ve hidden it somewhere on the page. If I really really need to read the thing and I can’t find a reject all, or have to disable 7000 different “trusted” associates one by one, I’ll open it in a different brower’s icognito window.

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                                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                  #58

                                  @mike

                                  That's exactly what I do. I'm not going to jump through hoops. There's no article worth all that, and there's always somebody else who wrote about that topic.

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                                  • bitchboss@marcella.masto.hostB bitchboss@marcella.masto.host

                                    @mike

                                    Yes. If there is no button labelled ‘Reject All’ or ‘Accept Only Necessary,’ then it's goodbye.

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                                    #59

                                    @bitchboss @mike My worry with “Accept Only Necssary” is what counts as necessary to who?

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                                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                      I wonder how many others do this.

                                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                      —
                                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                      #60

                                      @mike@sauropods.win this is what I have done for years now

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                                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                        I wonder how many others do this.

                                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                        —
                                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                        #61

                                        @mike mostly, but not always....

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                                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                          I wonder how many others do this.

                                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                          —
                                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                          #62

                                          @mike yep, I do this too, the content on a webpage needs to be very darn unique for me to take the trouble to do more than 3 clicks to refuse the cookies. I haven't actually missed anything important in my life since doing this for about the past 5 years

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