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🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90.

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  • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

    When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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    #6

    Nearby, he even has his own walking path based around the events of his life.

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    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

      When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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      #7

      @Richard_Littler
      Oh i remember this from your photos - I spent an hour or more on Google Maps walking through the complex! Fascinating!

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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        #8

        @cstross Just one example among a great litany of things wrong with his books/theories.

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        • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

          Däniken's 'paleo-contact' claims of extraterrestrial influences on early human development, attracted a dedicated following, despite his earlier convictions for theft, fraud and embezzlement (and robust debunking of his theories). Films, soundtracks, and even prog concept albums followed his books.

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          #9

          @Richard_Littler Some white people are desperate to believe anything to avoid having to realise that ancient brown people have constructed impressive monuments.

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          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

            When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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            #10

            @Richard_Littler

            I have never heard of this and just found out, it's near Interlaken and around a children's fun fair, called "Mysty Land".

            https://jungfraupark.ch/mysty-land/

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            • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

              When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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              #11

              @Richard_Littler For a while he was going to open another theme park, in Blackpool. (It dead-ended around 2014. I used it in one of my novels …)

              I am now imagining the consequences if he'd commissioned H. R. Giger to design the interiors.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                #12

                @cstross @Richard_Littler I've met the guy back in 2004 when his bizarre theme park was relatively new. Some analogue shots right off the Migros Picture CD-ROM in this thread: https://mastodon.social/deck/@guenterhack/115877370682477543

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                  #13

                  @cstross @Richard_Littler It's curious that the Egyptians and Maya had to have some help from aliens but the Romans didn't, isn't it?

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                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                    @cstross @Richard_Littler It's curious that the Egyptians and Maya had to have some help from aliens but the Romans didn't, isn't it?

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                    #14

                    @datarama @Richard_Littler Exactly this.

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                    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                      When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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                      #15

                      @Richard_Littler Cool buildings!

                      I think I read one of his books as a teen. Can't remember which one though. A remember reading a lot of Charles Berlitz, which seems the same type of genre, just about the Bermuda Triangle.

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        @Richard_Littler For a while he was going to open another theme park, in Blackpool. (It dead-ended around 2014. I used it in one of my novels …)

                        I am now imagining the consequences if he'd commissioned H. R. Giger to design the interiors.

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                        #16

                        @cstross Now, that concept worked out *much* better.
                        My photos of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères...

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                          #17

                          @cstross @Richard_Littler Back when colonialist white supremacist racism sold well. The whole racist "ancient aliens" thing has stuck around in the decades since, but not in such profitable form I think.

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                          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                            When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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                            #18

                            @Richard_Littler We had raves there.

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                            • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                              @cstross Just one example among a great litany of things wrong with his books/theories.

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                              #19

                              @Richard_Littler @cstross also as a treat "Erich von Däniken weg" means "Erich von Däniken gone"

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @Richard_Littler For a while he was going to open another theme park, in Blackpool. (It dead-ended around 2014. I used it in one of my novels …)

                                I am now imagining the consequences if he'd commissioned H. R. Giger to design the interiors.

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                                @cstross @Richard_Littler I'm imagining something like the Shandor building in the original Ghostbusters film, where the architecture makes it part of a summoning gateway.

                                It's a real building, too, though somewhat altered via film magic for the movie.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Central_Park_West

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                                • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                                  @cstross Now, that concept worked out *much* better.
                                  My photos of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères...

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                                  #21

                                  @Richard_Littler @cstross It's quite a place, isn't it? We went with one person who was not at all into the Alien movies who found it 'difficult'!

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                                  • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                                    When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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                                    @Richard_Littler oooooh, that's interesting. Any contact between that guy and Claude Vorilhon (also known as Raël)?

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                                      #23

                                      @cstross @Richard_Littler There's the implied subtext. And then there's the explicit, in-your-face JAQing off, like: "Was the black race a failure and did the extraterrestrials change the genetic code by gene surgery and then programme a white or a yellow race?" (von Däniken, /Signs of the Gods/, 1980, in the chapter “Man Outsmarts Nature” – loads more where that came from)

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                                      • jschwa1@mastodonapp.ukJ jschwa1@mastodonapp.uk

                                        @Richard_Littler @cstross It's quite a place, isn't it? We went with one person who was not at all into the Alien movies who found it 'difficult'!

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                                        #24

                                        @jschwa1 @Richard_Littler @cstross

                                        I don't mind Alien movies, but I still find it difficult even to look at the pictures, and I did have a Giger poster calendar once upon a time.

                                        The mental image of imagining me sitting on one of those chairs, and imagining such scenes exist somewhere in the galaxy, way way far away is quite different in outcome.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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                                          #25

                                          @cstross @Richard_Littler Ugh, my old man was well into this stuff, to the extent that he'd nod-and-wink that anyone who knew what they were talking about (eg. contemporary scientists like Hawking) must be an alien. Which isn't really helpful when your own son is doing a physics degree, is it?

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