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@StefanMuelller @lexiconista I’m noticing everyone around me (in the Netherlands though, so English as a second language) using “amount” for countable things instead of “number”. Is that a real trend?
@bart @StefanMuelller @lexiconista so much came before many?
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I would say, things where you can identify unique items…. But then electrons.. -
@StefanMuelller @argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma is energy many or much
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@StefanMuelller @argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma is energy many or much
For that, you also need a sufficiently good theory of particle physics.
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I would say, things where you can identify unique items…. But then electrons..Much is certainly open, and many are certainly closed. That much can be said
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@StefanMuelller Missed opportunity to add a Loss.jpg to the green snail's eyes
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@StefanMuelller Number is the noun in both cases. Rational and real are adjectives.
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Much is certainly open, and many are certainly closed. That much can be said
@ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller If one couldn't say much, it's probably because language sentences are countable...
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@StefanMuelller Irrationally, I like this *so* much I referenced it in my display name before I knew about it.
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@argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller But perhaps not too good.
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@StefanMuelller linguist vs mathematician. Only one leaves alive.
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@StefanMuelller linguist vs mathematician. Only one leaves alive.
@crouton I studied mathematics for a year from 1989 onwards, when computer science became available in 1990 I switched and I am now a linguistics professor. Am I dad? Did I kill half of me?
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2/ Hm, I feel a little bad since this turns out to be "my" most successful toot on my linguistic account and the content is not by me. At least it is credited in the image. So thanks to snail.and.snail for this great cartoon.
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cc @jendrik
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@argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller IMHO the distinction between countable and not countable is (while being certainly helpful) the wrong question.
The difference between "much" and "many" is the question for the amount and cardinality. That's why "much" can be used in many (not all) situations instead of "many".
How much/many potatoes do you need? Fine, as long as they are roughly the same size. Eggs? Depends on the dish. For scrambled eggs "much" should be fine, for boiled eggs not.
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@StefanMuelller also “how many does this cost?”
@joeldrapper that be „how much gold“ van „how many coins“. I suspect the word money is semantically closer to gold than to coins. @StefanMuelller
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@argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller IMHO the distinction between countable and not countable is (while being certainly helpful) the wrong question.
The difference between "much" and "many" is the question for the amount and cardinality. That's why "much" can be used in many (not all) situations instead of "many".
How much/many potatoes do you need? Fine, as long as they are roughly the same size. Eggs? Depends on the dish. For scrambled eggs "much" should be fine, for boiled eggs not.
@weddige @argv_minus_one @StefanMuelller
How are you distinguishing the terms “countability” and “cardinality”?
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@weddige @argv_minus_one @StefanMuelller
How are you distinguishing the terms “countability” and “cardinality”?
@ThreeSigma "countability" would be the property, that a meaningful "cardinality" exists, and the "cardinality" would be the actual number of items.
The difference between "how much" and "how many" is also not, if a natural number would be reasonable answer, but if that's the answer, that I expect.
How much potatoes? "1kg" or "5 potatoes" would be valid answers.
How many potatoes? "5 potatoes" or just "5" would be valid, "1kg" would not be valid. -
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