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https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today.

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  • don_clemente@chaos.socialD don_clemente@chaos.social

    @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
    Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

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    #19

    @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB 😉

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    • gme@bofh.socialG gme@bofh.social

      @osm_tech@en.osm.town
      Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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      #20

      @gme Anubis is great, but not ideal for us. We have reasonable technical mitigations in place, but it is unfortunately an arms race (and time/resource blackhole)

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      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

        @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB 😉

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        #21

        @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side 😉

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        • pesasa@mastodon.socialP pesasa@mastodon.social

          @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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          #22

          @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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          • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

            @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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            #23

            @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech
            If its helpful (if you want to stuff something unpleasant down their throats), I believe @jwz has been making a 'json bomb' for (AIUI) pretty much this purpose:
            https://mastodon.social/@jwz/116049057703097965

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            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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              #24

              @osm_tech @lehtimaeki I wonder if anyone has looked at the various AI browsers out there to see if they're used for active scraping.

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              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB 😉

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                #25

                @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Replacing the actual data with Null Island data that points to planet.osm.org is not a dumb idea IMHO

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                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                  https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                  #26

                  @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

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                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                    #27
                    @osm_tech

                    Please, please, AI bubble, burst already, so we can stop seeing this kind of vandalism.
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                    • nag4wika@mamot.frN nag4wika@mamot.fr

                      @osm_tech cc telecomix

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                      #28

                      @osm_tech @nag4wika Yuh?

                      ~~~==:}}

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                      • don_clemente@chaos.socialD don_clemente@chaos.social

                        @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side 😉

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                        #29

                        @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Can confirm. >:D

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                        • martinrust@infosec.exchangeM martinrust@infosec.exchange

                          @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

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                          #30

                          @martinrust

                          had a similar issue with a much, much smaller wiki server (😅 ) but facing the same anonymous scrapers coming from thousands of random IP's.

                          Couldn't find a way to keep them from crashing the server, so now access is by registration only.

                          Very disruptive, this "AI" race to the bottom destroyed the open internet 😟

                          @osm_tech

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                          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                            #31

                            @osm_tech I went to use OpenStreetMap today to get directions but it asked me to sign up/ log in, so I used Mapquest instead which doesn't.

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

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                              #32

                              @osm_tech @ISibboI Scraping the OpenStreetMap website gives of the same vibe as stealing free stuff.

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                              • air_quotes_comedian@kolektiva.socialA air_quotes_comedian@kolektiva.social

                                @osm_tech I went to use OpenStreetMap today to get directions but it asked me to sign up/ log in, so I used Mapquest instead which doesn't.

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                                #33

                                @Air_Quotes_Comedian Weird. We don't require login for directions.

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                                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                  @Air_Quotes_Comedian Weird. We don't require login for directions.

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                                  #34

                                  @osm_tech Hmmm.

                                  Perhaps I'm the only one who is required to log in for directions.

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