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What's funny it's that's Grenoble is one of the most cycling friendly city in France.@beatricejess @cmconseils
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@cmconseils Mais bien sûr ! C'est Aqualung de Jacques Cousteau.
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@cmconseils Good to know
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@cmconseils about right
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@cmconseils I'm dutch, so I relate to both the bike and the water
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@beatricejess @cmconseils
So... what do the *un* friendly cities' bike lanes look like?@silvermoon82 @cmconseils
The photo is not taken in Grenoble itself.
It's in another town in the suburbs of Grenoble, and the road is sort of a highway.
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The photo is not taken in Grenoble itself.
It's in another town in the suburbs of Grenoble, and the road is sort of a highway.
Inside Grenoble there is bikelanes almost on every street.@silvermoon82 @cmconseils
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@beatricejess @cmconseils j’habite pas très loin mais dans une autre vallée… je préfère passer par Brié que par là quand je vais dans ce coin!
@metacosm @cmconseils
Ah c'est clair que cette entrée sud est merdique à vélo.
Peu après cet endroit qui est en faux plat descendant en allant vers Grenoble il y a un accès au vieux pont de Claix et on peut rejoindre la piste cyclable sur berge de Pont de Claix derrière le terrain militaire. -
@beatricejess @cmconseils j’habite pas très loin mais dans une autre vallée… je préfère passer par Brié que par là quand je vais dans ce coin!
@metacosm @cmconseils le passage sur la nationale est assez court quand on connaît les raccourcis, mais en descendant de Séchilienne y a pas d'autres solutions...
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Like this@silvermoon82 @cmconseils
Grenoble itself is really bike friendly.
25% of commuting is done by bike... -
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@hanghuhn @cmconseils
We have here some very awkward road engineers
@beatricejess @hanghuhn @cmconseils
Yes, the fat Sesselfurzers who think it's acceptable to have a rural bikepath change the side of the road every few hundred meters because they have never in their adult life sat on a bike trying to keep up a good pace.
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@silvermoon82 @cmconseils
Grenoble itself is really bike friendly.
25% of commuting is done by bike...@beatricejess @silvermoon82 @cmconseils
The best (French) bike path I have encountered was in Lourdes, though. When you come down from the western side of the Col du Tourmalet, the last 10 or 15 km , the bike path runs along a railway, I think, and it leads right into the town center through and along some medieval walls and through a sort of park. Only at the end, you have to cross some streets with cars. Lourdes is miraculous in its ways!
Another Lourdes miracle: You can start in Lourdes to mount the Tourmalet with your bike, and despite crossing a 2000 m mountain pass, you arrive back in the same city. I don't know any other city where you can do that.
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@beatricejess @silvermoon82 @cmconseils
The best (French) bike path I have encountered was in Lourdes, though. When you come down from the western side of the Col du Tourmalet, the last 10 or 15 km , the bike path runs along a railway, I think, and it leads right into the town center through and along some medieval walls and through a sort of park. Only at the end, you have to cross some streets with cars. Lourdes is miraculous in its ways!
Another Lourdes miracle: You can start in Lourdes to mount the Tourmalet with your bike, and despite crossing a 2000 m mountain pass, you arrive back in the same city. I don't know any other city where you can do that.
@HarryMutt @silvermoon82 @cmconseils
Sure but it is for tourism.
In Grenoble bikeways are for everyday use.
To commute.
To go shopping.
To run errands.
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@beatricejess @hanghuhn @cmconseils
Yes, the fat Sesselfurzers who think it's acceptable to have a rural bikepath change the side of the road every few hundred meters because they have never in their adult life sat on a bike trying to keep up a good pace.
@HarryMutt @hanghuhn @cmconseils well.
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@HarryMutt @silvermoon82 @cmconseils
Sure but it is for tourism.
In Grenoble bikeways are for everyday use.
To commute.
To go shopping.
To run errands.
And there are also tourism infrastructures, 'specially along the rivers.@HarryMutt @silvermoon82 @cmconseils
I live in a suburbian town across the river and I have now a protected bikelane down my street that goes all the way to my work.
The same protected bikelane goes directly to my son's junior highschool. -
@HarryMutt @hanghuhn @cmconseils well.
Fatshaming wasn't necessary I think.@beatricejess @hanghuhn @cmconseils
Oh, the language police has arrived. That wasn't necessary I think.
No, it's not fatshaming. It's the ESSENCE of the term Sesselfurzer (which I used in relation to the comment about German bike lanes). And no, calling them anything other won't change that essence. If people cared more for content than form, and I mean BOTH sides, the culture wars wouldn't escalate as they do. In the end, there seem only snowflakes left who feel insulted by EVERYTHING and who make a big deal out of any miniscule thing that rubs them the wrong way. There are real issues that need to be addressed. This, here, is not one of them.
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