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Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

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  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

    Yeah. Me neither.

    This is a toot about operating systems.

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    #6

    @ptoothfish THIS. It's a colossal waste of time and productivity to have to relearn everything you had gotten so comfortable with, it was down to muscle memory. But no, some code weenies have to justify their jobs by making everything new and different.

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    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

      Yeah. Me neither.

      This is a toot about operating systems.

      colinstu@birdbutt.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @ptoothfish @vertigo this reminds me of people who are on 1-3yr auto leases, and phone upgrades every 6-24mo.

      There are folks who live in utter chaos at all times with everything changing all the time like it's just normal and ... (yeah I can't fathom it).

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      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

        Yeah. Me neither.

        This is a toot about operating systems.

        firesphere@cloudisland.nzF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @ptoothfish @bastardsheep The only constant is change, otherwise people won't buy our stuff!
        Sigh

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        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

          Yeah. Me neither.

          This is a toot about operating systems.

          croyle@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @ptoothfish ^^^ THIS!

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          • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

            Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

            Yeah. Me neither.

            This is a toot about operating systems.

            nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @ptoothfish I'd say it's a toot about tech in general...

            There's making improvements, and then there's just straight up fixing what isn't broken...

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            • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

              Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

              Yeah. Me neither.

              This is a toot about operating systems.

              brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11
              @ptoothfish@mastodon.nz its not a toot about openbsd or alpine linux tho 🙂
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              • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                @ptoothfish 💯 - if we did cars like tech does software, folks would have given ‘em up and gone back to walking.

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                dirtyancom@kolektiva.social
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                #12

                @cascheranno @ptoothfish I mean, look at what happened when tech bros started making cars... Everything suddenly became a touch screen — and everyone hated it.

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                • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                  Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                  Yeah. Me neither.

                  This is a toot about operating systems.

                  rainynight65@aus.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @ptoothfish It was bad enough when I had a rental car recently and the indicator was on the other side of the steering wheel, where decades of muscle memory expect the window wipers to be.

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                  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                    Yeah. Me neither.

                    This is a toot about operating systems.

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                    #14

                    @ptoothfish My linux setup is still about as close to the 2006 version as you can get, plus an early Mac style dock. If it works...

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                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                      Yeah. Me neither.

                      This is a toot about operating systems.

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                      #15

                      @ptoothfish
                      How timely. After weeks of tearing my hair out trying to deal with confusing and non-functonal aspects of the new Outlook, my supervisor asked me why I don't just use Outlook (classic). I replaced my shortcuts today and it's going much better. Windows 11 still sucks, though.

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                      • D dirtyancom@kolektiva.social

                        @cascheranno @ptoothfish I mean, look at what happened when tech bros started making cars... Everything suddenly became a touch screen — and everyone hated it.

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                        #16

                        @DirtyAnCom @ptoothfish absolutely! And not just hated; turns out a blind reach for a knob (or, forgive my human-factors fanboying masquerading as nostalgia, a row of 6 fat station buttons) is *safer* than looking away from the road at a touch screen.

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                        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                          Yeah. Me neither.

                          This is a toot about operating systems.

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                          #17

                          @ptoothfish
                          But if they didn't periodically resize the keyboard buttons on touchscreens and round off the corners to minimise the chances of your hitting the letters cleanly there'd be no opportunity for the mandatory AI autofill to tell your doctor you want a repeat prescription for a Palaeozoic armoured fish.

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                          • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                            @ptoothfish 💯 - if we did cars like tech does software, folks would have given ‘em up and gone back to walking.

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                            #18

                            @cascheranno @ptoothfish I mean this is pretty much what I *have* done because have you seen cars these days??? My 2009 Pontiac slowly rots on the street while I walk and bike because I am *not* buying one of these rolling enshittifications.

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                            • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                              Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                              Yeah. Me neither.

                              This is a toot about operating systems.

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                              #19

                              @ptoothfish I have in fact thought that about a car, but in that case I started so thinking within a few days of acquiring the car and spent the entire 8 to 10 years continuing to think it.

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                              • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                Yeah. Me neither.

                                This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                #20

                                @ptoothfish I've imagined a "Twilight Zone"-esque short about a man who every day wakes up in an alternate timeline where everything's almost the same except that all devices have completely different (often absurd) controls which he has to relearn every day. He ends up living in the Canadian wilderness in a log cabin he built himself.

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                                • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                  Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                  Yeah. Me neither.

                                  This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                  #21

                                  @ptoothfish That's just to keep you alert 😉 My brothers once tried to establish a system, where the F1 key would alternately trigger HELP or Format 😄

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                                  • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                    @DirtyAnCom @ptoothfish absolutely! And not just hated; turns out a blind reach for a knob (or, forgive my human-factors fanboying masquerading as nostalgia, a row of 6 fat station buttons) is *safer* than looking away from the road at a touch screen.

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                                    #22

                                    @cascheranno @DirtyAnCom @ptoothfish

                                    In principle I like putting big screens in cars. Then one can have a nice large map, and show other relevant information. And also do the "big" settings one usually does once or rarely - while not driving.

                                    But for everything which has to be controlled either regularly while driving or is time critical there has to be an other appropriate (easy, takes practically no attention) way for doing the command.

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                                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                      Yeah. Me neither.

                                      This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                      #23

                                      @ptoothfish I have a 2024 Snodgras Rapier and a 2024 Snodgras Defender and it would be so nice if the steering wheel controls were identical, the dash controls were identical, the dashboard instrument placement were identical, and so on. Sadly the Snodgras Motor Company has no concept of uniformity in controls. It also doesn't seem to believe there is value in building common parts in bulk.

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                                      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                        Yeah. Me neither.

                                        This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                        #24

                                        @ptoothfish I always think about how much "cleaner" the car would look if, for example, there was just one pedal which opened a series of menus hiding functions like "brake"

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                                        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                          Yeah. Me neither.

                                          This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                          #25

                                          @ptoothfish :spittake: God I laughed so hard at this. And then imagined mandatory drill upgrades that moved the power button each time. And then laughed some more.

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