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What’s it like living in Minneapolis / St. Paul right now?

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  • mellowtigger@mastodon.onlineM mellowtigger@mastodon.online

    @Iwillyeah @inthehands

    I keep reminding people that we live in a plutocracy not a democracy. Even Harvard admits it now.
    https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policycast/oligarchy-open-what-happens-now-us-forced-confront-its-plutocracy

    Getting our economic overlords to care about what's happening is the primary within-the-system method that we can use to turn our national course.

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    #22

    @MellowTigger @inthehands ugh, it's yucky, but whatever, survival means holding your nose.

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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      The car appears to be a rental. It had Amazon packages in the back seat — just received? Or (more likely) being delivered? Probably these were people just out there doing their delivery job, try to make ends meet.

      But we don’t know, because nobody was able to find out who they are.

      I hope they get out. I hope they get their car back. I hope a lot of things.

      3/

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      #23

      @inthehands

      Fucking darkgrim.

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      • sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.social

        @inthehands Minneapolis police sure do a bang-up job of "protecting and serving".

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        #24

        @SharpCheddarGoblin @inthehands

        The cops never say exactly who they "protect and serve"
        #ACAB

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        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

          The car appears to be a rental. It had Amazon packages in the back seat — just received? Or (more likely) being delivered? Probably these were people just out there doing their delivery job, try to make ends meet.

          But we don’t know, because nobody was able to find out who they are.

          I hope they get out. I hope they get their car back. I hope a lot of things.

          3/

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          #25

          @inthehands
          Are people going to local council meetings and demanding protection by local government and police department? If the local government refuses to protect their citizens, then they’re culpable

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          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

            The car appears to be a rental. It had Amazon packages in the back seat — just received? Or (more likely) being delivered? Probably these were people just out there doing their delivery job, try to make ends meet.

            But we don’t know, because nobody was able to find out who they are.

            I hope they get out. I hope they get their car back. I hope a lot of things.

            3/

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            #26

            @inthehands
            I am so sorry you are dealing with this.

            To try to prevent these situations, Human Rights First created an app called "Ready Now" for immigrants or anyone who might be abducted. I have it even though I'm white and a citizen by birth, because I do ICE watch. It gives you a "panic button" to push on your phone to send an emergency message to your chosen contacts that ICE may have taken you. Mine just asks my neighbor to feed the cats and get me a lawyer.

            https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/human-rights-first-launches-readynow-app-to-offer-lifeline-to-immigrants-during-ice-encounters/

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            • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

              @inthehands
              I am so sorry you are dealing with this.

              To try to prevent these situations, Human Rights First created an app called "Ready Now" for immigrants or anyone who might be abducted. I have it even though I'm white and a citizen by birth, because I do ICE watch. It gives you a "panic button" to push on your phone to send an emergency message to your chosen contacts that ICE may have taken you. Mine just asks my neighbor to feed the cats and get me a lawyer.

              https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/human-rights-first-launches-readynow-app-to-offer-lifeline-to-immigrants-during-ice-encounters/

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              #27

              @inthehands
              Obviously we need to abolish ICE, but in the meantime anybody can use this app to feel somewhat safer.

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              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                What’s it like living in Minneapolis / St. Paul right now?

                This weekend, ICE abducted two people straight out of a car near where I live. Just straight up stopped the car and took them.

                I found out because neighbors were trying to figure out what to do with the car, which ICE just left there blocking the street.

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                #28

                @inthehands The police chief actually said there were cars also left with pets in them that they had to get animal control for. These people are monsters. Actually, I wouldn’t mind taking their citizenship away since they’re acting like Nazis and not Americans. That’s way too much to ask for, but I do hope to see some in jail.

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                • sophieschmieg@infosec.exchangeS sophieschmieg@infosec.exchange

                  @paul_ipv6 @inthehands honestly, I've been wondering that for a while. If there is a masked, unidentified person abducting people in broad daylight, isn't it supposedly the police's job to stop them? I mean could be anyone, without a badge we can't know for sure, after all.

                  (And I know, expecting the police to actually do their job instead of committing crimes themselves is a tall order, but still)

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                  #29

                  @sophieschmieg @paul_ipv6 @inthehands The police are doing their job, it’s just that it’s a job we don’t want them to do.

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    What’s it like living in Minneapolis / St. Paul right now?

                    This weekend, ICE abducted two people straight out of a car near where I live. Just straight up stopped the car and took them.

                    I found out because neighbors were trying to figure out what to do with the car, which ICE just left there blocking the street.

                    1/

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                    #30

                    @inthehands 😡 😱

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                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                      The car appears to be a rental. It had Amazon packages in the back seat — just received? Or (more likely) being delivered? Probably these were people just out there doing their delivery job, try to make ends meet.

                      But we don’t know, because nobody was able to find out who they are.

                      I hope they get out. I hope they get their car back. I hope a lot of things.

                      3/

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                      #31

                      @inthehands Wow, they are kidnapping Amazon (contract) delivery people!!!!

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                      • nerde@beige.partyN nerde@beige.party

                        @inthehands
                        Are people going to local council meetings and demanding protection by local government and police department? If the local government refuses to protect their citizens, then they’re culpable

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                        #32

                        @inthehands @Nerde

                        Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

                        https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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                        • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                          @inthehands I keep wanting this to happen in a stand your ground state where someone (rightfully) defends themselves against an unidentified masked goon trying to kidnap them.

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                          #33

                          @codemonkeymike @inthehands everywhere is a stand your ground state when it's in defense of others. It just takes people brave enough to do it.

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                          • beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org

                            @inthehands The police chief actually said there were cars also left with pets in them that they had to get animal control for. These people are monsters. Actually, I wouldn’t mind taking their citizenship away since they’re acting like Nazis and not Americans. That’s way too much to ask for, but I do hope to see some in jail.

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                            #34

                            @Beachbum
                            There was at least once incident in Dec in which there was a car left with •children• in it after ICE abducted the parent.

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                            • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                              @inthehands @Nerde

                              Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

                              https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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                              #35

                              @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

                              We have seen now from the many phone calls made to 911 that the police will not get involved. We are on our own when it comes to ICE.

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                              • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                @inthehands @Nerde

                                Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

                                https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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                                #36

                                @gbargoud @Nerde
                                Yes, a big question here is what •kind• of protection we’re demanding and from •whom•.

                                The Minneapolis Police have very low trust. They’re officially forbidden by the city from assisting ICE, but…few people imagine they’re not on ICE’s side. Some argue we should demand their protection anyway to force the issue; others don’t want to touch them with a 10 foot pole.

                                Gov Walz has talked about mobilizing the Minnesota National Guard to keep the peace. That’s a more credible idea — they’re a lot less fashy than the Mpls Police — but still not clear that would be welcome. One idea I’m warm to is having •unarmed• NG protecting vulnerable locations.

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                                • N netux@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @codemonkeymike @inthehands everywhere is a stand your ground state when it's in defense of others. It just takes people brave enough to do it.

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                                  #37

                                  @Netux @codemonkeymike
                                  I’m extremely leery of this, because the upper levels of the Trump regime are very clearly (imo) •trying• to get an ICE officer killed

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                                  • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                                    @Radaghaz @inthehands those exist in other countries too, and are indeed important and powerful.
                                    https://www.stolpersteine.eu/en/the-art-memorial/stolpersteine

                                    "Our STOLPERSTEINE have so far been laid in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Finland, France, Greece, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Croatia, Latvia, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, the Republic of Moldova, Romania, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, the Czech Republic, Ukraine, and Hungary.

                                    As of August 2024, the project has grown to over 107,000 stones laid in almost 1900 municipalities."
                                    #holocaust #remembrance #art

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                                    @noodlemaz @Radaghaz @inthehands

                                    No. Seriously no. Stolpersteine have been laid in many places. AFTER NAZISM WAS DEFEATED. Fuck off with your putting down stones, that does nothing at all right now. Concentrate on actually combatting and defeating your Nazis FIRST.

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      @Netux @codemonkeymike
                                      I’m extremely leery of this, because the upper levels of the Trump regime are very clearly (imo) •trying• to get an ICE officer killed

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                                      #39

                                      @inthehands @Netux sure.. i get it. And i'm not saying I'm for it.. but at what point do people break?

                                      At a certain point, making a clever sign and going to a protest feels insanely inefficient..

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                                      • regordane@mastodon.me.ukR regordane@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @noodlemaz @Radaghaz @inthehands

                                        No. Seriously no. Stolpersteine have been laid in many places. AFTER NAZISM WAS DEFEATED. Fuck off with your putting down stones, that does nothing at all right now. Concentrate on actually combatting and defeating your Nazis FIRST.

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                                        @noodlemaz @Radaghaz @inthehands

                                        And yes, it may cost lives. It probably will. It did back then as well

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                                        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                          @inthehands @Nerde

                                          Statement from the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police:

                                          https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/115883316530054328

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                                          @gbargoud @inthehands @Nerde

                                          We can’t claim progress after the George Floyd murder until the kinds of people hired to be police officers would refuse to support that type of letter (‘“FOP Stands with ICE" - Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police Condemns Rhetoric’). It’s not just a few bad apples.

                                          #uspol
                                          #minnesota
                                          #ice

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