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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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    #44

    @Natasha_Jay 😬

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

      “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

      hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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      #45

      @drahardja @Natasha_Jay I believe it’s supposed to be h*tt*ps

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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        #46

        @Natasha_Jay It seems to me that AI tools have been released prematurely to generate revenue from the massive investments AI tech companies are making. This type of hallucination could cause serious damage to any business, organisation or person using it. Who is accountable in the end? Given the history of big tech's social media platforms and the harm theyare causing you can bet they'll accept no responsibility.

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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          #47

          @Natasha_Jay

          "... just inventing plausible sounding [answers]"

          This shit is so tiring - that is literally all any AI is even *meant* to do. They are not even designed to give correct answers to questions, but just examples of what a plausible answer could sound like.

          (edit: sorry, I know I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but it's just so fucking tiring seeing people surprised by this crap.)

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          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

            ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #48

            @Natasha_Jay Bwahahahahahaha

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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              #49

              @Natasha_Jay .. and you really want to blame the technology for this... If there was no process for checking the facts that were used , it is simply bad implementation, everyone knows you have to check for or do something against hallucinations with GenAI.

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                #50

                @Natasha_Jay

                Guess who is going to take the blame for this...

                #RollingDownHill
                🤯

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                • jmcclure@sciences.socialJ jmcclure@sciences.social

                  @Natasha_Jay

                  "... just inventing plausible sounding [answers]"

                  This shit is so tiring - that is literally all any AI is even *meant* to do. They are not even designed to give correct answers to questions, but just examples of what a plausible answer could sound like.

                  (edit: sorry, I know I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but it's just so fucking tiring seeing people surprised by this crap.)

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                  #51

                  @jmcclure Keep preaching😉 @Natasha_Jay

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                  • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

                    @ZenHeathen @Natasha_Jay the thing is, there is no change-over "period" once you use this daily, your org begins lose its institutional memory

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                    #52

                    @Bredroll @ZenHeathen @Natasha_Jay And there will be further, probably unnoticed, changeover periods, when the technology less or more silently provider changes (or even the org changes provider, …) their services, e.g., the used model is changed.

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                      #53

                      @Natasha_Jay

                      So I asked the higher ups to double check this $11M investment they made to run the show in our department. Everything promised was made worse with zero improvements. We lost a lot of experience and money. Almost lost me too, but I'm a fixer and they are going to pay me a lot of overtime...

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                        #54

                        @Natasha_Jay so much karma

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                        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                          @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

                          “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

                          hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                          #55

                          @drahardja
                          Oh yes, that’s a beauty!! Just shaking my head in disbelief here… 🤷🏼‍♀️
                          “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

                          @Natasha_Jay

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            #56

                            @Natasha_Jay

                            I can't wait to deploy AI on the battlefield! And for policing. 😬

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                            • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

                              @Natasha_Jay

                              What would be amusing is them having greater success using bullshit data than whoever was previously correlating stuff :^D

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                              #57

                              @lxskllr more likely it will have similar results to that of the media industry who changed their entire industry based on fake data provided to them by Facebook.

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                              • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                                @Natasha_Jay .. and you really want to blame the technology for this... If there was no process for checking the facts that were used , it is simply bad implementation, everyone knows you have to check for or do something against hallucinations with GenAI.

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                                #58

                                @ErikJonker then where's the productivity gain promised with AI if you still have to do the work to get the numbers you trust? Why take on the additional cost at that point?

                                If you had an employee who was constantly lying to you, you'd fire them.

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                                • jmcclure@sciences.socialJ jmcclure@sciences.social

                                  @Natasha_Jay

                                  "... just inventing plausible sounding [answers]"

                                  This shit is so tiring - that is literally all any AI is even *meant* to do. They are not even designed to give correct answers to questions, but just examples of what a plausible answer could sound like.

                                  (edit: sorry, I know I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but it's just so fucking tiring seeing people surprised by this crap.)

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                                  #59

                                  @jmcclure so many people don't understand this.

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                                  • greatbigtable@mastodon.socialG greatbigtable@mastodon.social

                                    @ErikJonker then where's the productivity gain promised with AI if you still have to do the work to get the numbers you trust? Why take on the additional cost at that point?

                                    If you had an employee who was constantly lying to you, you'd fire them.

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                                    #60

                                    @GreatBigTable also true, you have to make a rational business decision, as with every other technology

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                      #61

                                      @Natasha_Jay this can't be real, right? Everyone knows AI isn't ready for any mission critical stuff right now (probably years away)

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                                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                        #62

                                        @Natasha_Jay "Trust but verify" - Old KGB proverb

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                                        • 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange0 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange

                                          @Natasha_Jay I suspect that one of the few applications where a heavily hallucinating LLM can outperform a human would be in replacing board members, C-suite executives, and their direct reports. I propose a longitudinal study with a control group of high level executives using real data, and experimental group using hallucinated, or maybe even totally random data filtered into plausible ranges, using executive compensation deltas as the metric.

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                                          #63

                                          @0x0ddc0ffee @Natasha_Jay I would LOVE to see the resultant shareholder suit over an AI board. There's a long list of duties they are required to perform. Seeing, for example, how the courts would deal with the duty of care or the business judgement rule. OK, the business judgement rule may be handled better by the AI, but... a shareholder would still have them on the duty of care.

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