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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • krapp@krapp.masto.hostK krapp@krapp.masto.host

    @Edent I'm afraid integrating something like this into the platform would lead to perverse incentives like monetization, bots, bait posting, influencer culture and a lot of the capitalist nonsense that has destroyed mainstream social media.

    I think it's fine to ask for tips or donations or aid in a post but where the actual platform is concerned we need to remember the medium is the message. We don't want the message of Mastodon to be "every post can make you money."

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    #83

    @krapp I'm curious. What do you think the difference is between having a link in a profile and a link on every post?

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

      (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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      #84

      @Edent I think github sponsorships took no comission? Otherwise some kind of direct bank trasfer.

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      • maexchen1@nrw.socialM maexchen1@nrw.social

        @Edent

        #PayPal and #crypto work without an app?

        #paypal see #diday

        Crypto = $3 today, $3,000 tomorrow.

        The fluctuations are extreme.

        @cdonat

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        #85

        @maexchen1 @cdonat
        I don't have an app for either PayPal or Crypto - I send payments to people using the web.

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        • shlee@aus.socialS shlee@aus.social

          @Edent @neil this is “one of those things”… stripe/paypal have 30c+3% per transaction

          So if you want to handle microtipping, you need someone to hold onto the tips and then pool them together to have a “payment consolidation” period… or escrow style.

          A lot of trust plus dealing with taxes and international currencies and exchange rates etc etc.

          And I dislike blockchain….. but as a concept, I’d love the idea of content creators getting paid.. but maybe patreon is a better option for creators.

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          #86

          @shlee @Edent @neil Ghost is a non corporate open source selfhost alternative

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          • nymnympseudonymm@mstdn.scienceN nymnympseudonymm@mstdn.science

            @shlee @Edent @neil Ghost is a non corporate open source selfhost alternative

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            #87

            @shlee @Edent @Nymnympseudonymm It is a cool blogging engine with subscription features, for sure, but it doesn't replace the need for a payment processor?

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              What if Mastodon had this button?

              (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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              #88

              @Edent that plus a button that means you no longer have to put these disclaimers at the bottom of your posts 😄

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                What if Mastodon had this button?

                (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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                #89

                @Edent
                🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
                Should blocking cost money (paid to instance mod's)?
                Could such a system be abused?

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                • ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI ivansanchez@mastodon.social

                  @Edent
                  🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
                  Should blocking cost money (paid to instance mod's)?
                  Could such a system be abused?

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                  #90

                  @IvanSanchez I should be able to charge people to reply to me 🙂

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    @IvanSanchez I should be able to charge people to reply to me 🙂

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                    #91

                    @Edent What?! Outrageous! In this 43-chained-toots essay I will...

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      @krapp I'm curious. What do you think the difference is between having a link in a profile and a link on every post?

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                      #92

                      @Edent putting a link on every post gives the impression that every post and every account is a money making opportunity.

                      Just having a link in a profile or an occasional post is situational, it implies nothing about the overall platform or its incentives.

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @thezenlady what do you like about Ko-Fi compared to plain PayPal?

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                        #93

                        @Edent

                        Is ko-fi owned by paypal? I use ko-fi to donate to my mastodon instance toot.community. Unlike PayPal, it doesn't bombard me with promotional emails. And it doesn't charge a fee on donations to the recipient unlike PayPal

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                        • thezenlady@toot.communityT thezenlady@toot.community

                          @Edent

                          Is ko-fi owned by paypal? I use ko-fi to donate to my mastodon instance toot.community. Unlike PayPal, it doesn't bombard me with promotional emails. And it doesn't charge a fee on donations to the recipient unlike PayPal

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                          #94

                          @thezenlady ah! They've changed. They used to only accept PayPal. Looks like they now accept some credit cards.

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            @cdonat literally zero people use that. Anything which requires installing yet another app is a non-starter.

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                            #95

                            @Edent @cdonat

                            Maybe. But then your solution space is empty.

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              @thezenlady ah! They've changed. They used to only accept PayPal. Looks like they now accept some credit cards.

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                              #96

                              @Edent
                              Yes I use a credit card for my donations via Ko-fi - I avoid PayPal whenever possible

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                What if Mastodon had this button?

                                (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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                                #97

                                @Edent I'm confused by the concept of paying/tipping for a particular post. I can't think of a single interaction I've had which would cross that threshold where I feel their comment or assistance was sufficiently helpful or valuable to me to send money.

                                But maybe something to tip instance admins?

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  What if Mastodon had this button?

                                  (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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                                  #98
                                  @Edent We already have this it's called 10grans
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                                  • scathach@stereophonic.spaceS scathach@stereophonic.space
                                    @Edent We already have this it's called 10grans
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                                    #99

                                    @scathach Not sure I understand you. What is that?

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      What if Mastodon had this button?

                                      (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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                                      #100

                                      @Edent I think it would be huge for folks who are often de-platformed because of their art or job, but I think we'd have to be _really_ careful with the potential for scams and malicious implementations because of the decentralized nature of the Fedi. Might need some form of mutual vouching or other safeguards against fraud...

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                        (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                        #101

                                        @Edent As loathe as PayPal is, I already have it, it's convenient, and reasonably trustworthy.

                                        If there was some sort of trustworthy "put $X in a pool each month and then tip as I browse around, and at the end of the month, divide up that $X pool by all the places I've tipped" sort of solution, it would feel more natural and help mitigate runaway costs. (if I don't want to spend more than $X/month, I don't have to think about whether I've somehow accrued 3× that amount because of extra appreciation)

                                        There were some platforms that tried this, but I haven't heard how they're doing or how widely they're supported.

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                          (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                          #102

                                          @Edent@mastodon.social Other: Zeffy

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