Let's do this.
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@anthropy @aris You know very well I am not talking about base materials such as the LiFePo4 here, which the average consumer shouldn't even know. But what it is put in, it's certification and the certification, safety and requirements of the full installation and what you are connecting it to.
You do you, but mains and high voltage DC electricity is not a toy.
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@mattesilver @TechConnectify usually the warranty is that after 25 years the panels will still produce at least 80%, these days often even more, and that's the *minimum*, if one is lucky¹ it could easily be more.
¹ or lives in an area with cooler summers, and/or has bought more expensive panels with a better warranty
thank you, I got it from the other answers.
Somehow no one mentions longevity of batteries...
Another thing is that it's all stupid-"smart". I have a PV installation, and it all requires connection to some 3rd party SaaS. Once the company goes belly-up, as they often do, it's all an expensive paperweight.
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@anthropy @maruno I think the warning and words of caution are fair. These batteries can cause fire and if after inspection (if me and my family is still alive) the experts say my no-name hacked battery setups caused it, I may find myself homeless. That's why despite the margins I may end up buying from an European seller. I need to put more thoughts into it.
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thank you, I got it from the other answers.
Somehow no one mentions longevity of batteries...
Another thing is that it's all stupid-"smart". I have a PV installation, and it all requires connection to some 3rd party SaaS. Once the company goes belly-up, as they often do, it's all an expensive paperweight.
@mattesilver @TechConnectify batteries were mentioned in the video, in the context of how car batteries have been exceeding the longevity expectations by a lot
as for the smart, our installation is smarter than I'd like, requires a connection and sends data to a 3rd party, but when (not if) internet is not available it's still producing energy, storing it in the batteries and using it locally; I'm not sure about reselling it to the grid, but I think that would also be working. The part that will disappear if the company dies is just the data logging and reporting, and losing that would be bad, but not as bad as losing everything else.
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@anthropy @maruno I think the warning and words of caution are fair. These batteries can cause fire and if after inspection (if me and my family is still alive) the experts say my no-name hacked battery setups caused it, I may find myself homeless. That's why despite the margins I may end up buying from an European seller. I need to put more thoughts into it.
@aris @maruno and that's entirely fair- I'm not saying not to be cautious, but I find it a little much to say that neither of us know anything about this and that I'm "preaching" for unsafe setups, when I've explicitly said I'd have to look into what good cells are later.
Any setup can cause a fire, and I've seen some extremely scary thin wiring and connections in premade bat boxes that are "okay because we probably don't pull that much amps" (youtube is full of these). The key is research tbh.
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@Janne_O @almino Depending on country, YT inserts its own advertisements into videos even when the creator is not (or cannot) monetize the video.
They've been doing this for about 18 months, IIRC.
EDIT: https://www.pootlepress.com/2025/04/can-youtube-show-ads-on-your-channel-if-you-turn-off-monetization/ says they've been doing it since 2020, but not if Alec is part of the YouTube Partner Program (idk if he is). Google's support pages confirm the current state: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2475463?hl=en
(I've had YT Premium since it was "YT Red" and given away free with what was "Google Music" so I often don't notice when YT changes how much they advertise.)
@BoydStephenSmithJr @almino I have watched the video couple of times now and have seen no ads. And even if I did, I don’t see the point in throwing a fit about it. There are more important things to get upset about than couple of ads in an informative video.
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@TechConnectify Democrats just voted to continue funding DHS. Democrats have demonatrated they don't care about Palestinians and nor do they care about you.
and yes, the lithium only has to be mined once, but where is the mine? not your back yard! it will come from further colonial expansion.
@burnitdown You are correct, but that is not the issue. The issue is under whose party's control you would be best able to support Palestinians, protest against DHS, and in general make your voice heard and organise resistance. And even though it's possible to organise resistance in a fascist dictatorship, it's much easier under a dysfunctional and comparatively mildly hostile government.
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W wando@troet.cafe shared this topic
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@aris @maruno and that's entirely fair- I'm not saying not to be cautious, but I find it a little much to say that neither of us know anything about this and that I'm "preaching" for unsafe setups, when I've explicitly said I'd have to look into what good cells are later.
Any setup can cause a fire, and I've seen some extremely scary thin wiring and connections in premade bat boxes that are "okay because we probably don't pull that much amps" (youtube is full of these). The key is research tbh.
@aris @maruno Okay I've finished my long working day and I looked around a little.
I decided to be lazy and let Gemini Deep Research gather some intel on the subject, it seems to align with what I remember from my own research: https://gemini.google.com/share/3be8913c4777
One thing that I can immediately agree with from there is that https://nkon.nl is a very good european-based supplier, with cells in the exact price range I mentioned: https://www.nkon.nl/rechargeable/lifepo4/prismatisch.html
so if you DO want to try it, that's the way.
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@aris @maruno Okay I've finished my long working day and I looked around a little.
I decided to be lazy and let Gemini Deep Research gather some intel on the subject, it seems to align with what I remember from my own research: https://gemini.google.com/share/3be8913c4777
One thing that I can immediately agree with from there is that https://nkon.nl is a very good european-based supplier, with cells in the exact price range I mentioned: https://www.nkon.nl/rechargeable/lifepo4/prismatisch.html
so if you DO want to try it, that's the way.
@maruno Also sorry if I came across rough earlier. I was busy and didn't have the mental capacity to get into some debate about the safety of things, and also didn't like the seeming implication that I didn't know what I was doing (I've been doing this for many years and definitely did my research and talked with experts in the field).
If you do want to have an openminded discussion about it I'm all open to it. But.. please don't just berate me with assumptions, it honestly feels condescending.
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@aris @maruno Okay I've finished my long working day and I looked around a little.
I decided to be lazy and let Gemini Deep Research gather some intel on the subject, it seems to align with what I remember from my own research: https://gemini.google.com/share/3be8913c4777
One thing that I can immediately agree with from there is that https://nkon.nl is a very good european-based supplier, with cells in the exact price range I mentioned: https://www.nkon.nl/rechargeable/lifepo4/prismatisch.html
so if you DO want to try it, that's the way.
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@BoydStephenSmithJr @almino I have watched the video couple of times now and have seen no ads. And even if I did, I don’t see the point in throwing a fit about it. There are more important things to get upset about than couple of ads in an informative video.
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@TechConnectify I am not completely through your video but have an interesting videolink to the recycling problem.
It's completely in German but it shows a process to completely separate all layers of a solar panel to get pure materials for new panels.Or on yt
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us, yesterday evening “we've just spent the day looking at conference video, we're tired, but the laptop is already connected to the big(-ish) screen in front of the couch, let's watch something lightweight, like @TechConnectify preaching to the choir¹ about how cool solar panels are”
us, yesterday evening, a bit more than one hour later: “ouch”
but it was the good kind of “ouch”, because those things needed to be said, thanks for doing so
¹ at least in our case
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@TechConnectify This may be your best video yet, certainly the best not on dishwashers or christmas lights.
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@GoodNewsGreyShoes They didn’t though. They said “TL;DW?”.
That’s not asking for help. That’s an incredibly terse way to say “what you made is too long and I didn’t watch it”.
Interpreting that as a “request” involves adding in as much context on your part as interpreting my comment as a rebuke.
In both cases; the “request” and the “rebuke” are not in the original statements.
@mattwilcox
>>"Interpreting that as a “request” involves adding in as much context on your part as interpreting my comment as a rebuke."1st half: Genuinely, what purpose does a question mark serve if not to indicate a request?
2nd half: You got me there!
I absolutely agree that, had I given your words the same benefit-of-the-doubt I'd applied to the "TL;DW?", your statement *could* have been intended as a completely earnest suggestion without even a HINT of disdain or rebuke.
Were they?
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@TechConnectify @GoodNewsGreyShoes Make sure to watch the entire thing.
@gudenau Absolutely will do!
I won't be able to until after work today, tho.
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@mattwilcox
>>"Interpreting that as a “request” involves adding in as much context on your part as interpreting my comment as a rebuke."1st half: Genuinely, what purpose does a question mark serve if not to indicate a request?
2nd half: You got me there!
I absolutely agree that, had I given your words the same benefit-of-the-doubt I'd applied to the "TL;DW?", your statement *could* have been intended as a completely earnest suggestion without even a HINT of disdain or rebuke.Were they?
@GoodNewsGreyShoes They were. The video is well worth taking the time, and almost anyone (myself included) will come out of it more educated.
[edit] I’ll also add; some lessons are better learned not through a summary but through the actual process of learning. A summary and an education are different. Otherwise school would be a week of cliff notes and done. These are topics I feel deserve learning; because the summary isn’t really that new.
There’s value in spending time.
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Dropping this here: https://beige.party/@beadsland/115994684716790502
(Responding to: "Did this video make sense to you?")
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Technology Connections Oh man, right-wing heat pump and dishwasher spaces must be in a wild tizzy this weekend. This is going to be worse than all of the people suddenly asking why Star Trek had to go and get all "woke".
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@GoodNewsGreyShoes They were. The video is well worth taking the time, and almost anyone (myself included) will come out of it more educated.
[edit] I’ll also add; some lessons are better learned not through a summary but through the actual process of learning. A summary and an education are different. Otherwise school would be a week of cliff notes and done. These are topics I feel deserve learning; because the summary isn’t really that new.
There’s value in spending time.
@mattwilcox I can accept that, & apologize for assuming otherwise.
I genuinely agree with everything you've said, here!
You're absolutely right about the merits of this video & thorough study itself, & I certainly hadn't meant to suggest I believed otherwise. >"A summary & an education are different"
Precisely! A summary (tl:dw) is *not* meant to replace watching the video (it never could!), but to ADD something: your personal take-aways!
TL:DW is an accessibility aid, not a substitute.
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